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DoChat – a Dockerized WeChat PC Windows client for Linux

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Re: DoChat – a Dockerized WeChat PC Windows client for Linux

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Post by opless »

dijit wrote: post #27
clubdorothe wrote: post #10

I went back to China for a month in December 2019. It's crazy how Wechat payment is now used everywhere. Any shops in China (I believe 99% of them): in wechat, you have "wallet" that generates QR code. Go to any shop, at the counter, show the QR code generated, they have the machine (or wechat app) to scan it. done. Crazy efficient. Most of the people there don't bring wallets anymore. Most of the restaurants in Shen…

Not sure if you know, but at least life in Sweden is pretty close to this. Contactless payments are everywhere (Apple/Samsung/Android pay) and the app “swish” works great for sending payments to people. Even some businesses have a swish QR code displayed in lieu of taking cash payments.

Same in the UK, you get at least £30 from your contactless card/Apple/Android pay.

Some shops do more, an increasing large number allow a larger limit. However some large shops (Tesco) only allow large limits on their own payment apps, rather than Apple/android pay, forcing you to use your card and pin!

Re: DoChat – a Dockerized WeChat PC Windows client for Linux

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Post by wendyshu »

odiroot wrote: post #44
clubdorothe wrote: post #10

I went back to China for a month in December 2019. It's crazy how Wechat payment is now used everywhere. Any shops in China (I believe 99% of them): in wechat, you have "wallet" that generates QR code. Go to any shop, at the counter, show the QR code generated, they have the machine (or wechat app) to scan it. done. Crazy efficient. Most of the people there don't bring wallets anymore. Most of the restaurants in Shen…

I've been to Chengdu and Shenzhen in 2017. People were sometimes sighing and rolling their eyes when I tried to pay with cash. Even worse with cards.

Why are cards worse?

Re: DoChat – a Dockerized WeChat PC Windows client for Linux

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Post by dx87 »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #48
upofadown wrote: post #45

>curl -sL https://raw.githubusercontent.com/huan/docker-wechat/master/... | bash This is a textbook example of something you should never ever do... It gives some entity (usually a bunch or entities) you may not entirely trust an effortless way to own your system. You would need to download the script and carefully examine it to determine that it only does things you approve of. The fact that others might of download…

Is this different from running any other piece of software from the internet?

The only real difference is that there are ways the server can know if you are downloading it for inspection, or if you're piping it straight to bash. A hacked/untrusted site could serve up a malicious script file if it detects that it's being sent straight into bash, and a clean script if you aren't. With most things you download from the Internet, you download then run the software if you want. Curl to bash is download and run with no confirmation step in the middle.

Re: DoChat – a Dockerized WeChat PC Windows client for Linux

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Post by [deleted] »

dijit wrote: post #32
stingraycharles wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do people have to pay transaction fees for using their bank cards in the US? At least over here in .nl there are none of these fees (as a consumer) and we have free NFC payments with your regular bank cards or Apple Pay etc.

EU caps the transaction fee of banks to like 1%. (which is paid by the seller). NL is a bit of a special cookie here, companies in NL don't like paying 1% transaction fees, so most companies only accept MAESTRO. Because Maestro has lower tx fees. Every time I visit I can't pay for anything with my VISA or Mastercard. It's rather frustrating.

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Re: DoChat – a Dockerized WeChat PC Windows client for Linux

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Post by [deleted] »

stingraycharles wrote: post #34
dijit wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

EU caps the transaction fee of banks to like 1%. (which is paid by the seller). NL is a bit of a special cookie here, companies in NL don't like paying 1% transaction fees, so most companies only accept MAESTRO. Because Maestro has lower tx fees. Every time I visit I can't pay for anything with my VISA or Mastercard. It's rather frustrating.

Yeah nobody uses credit cards because of these fees. However, I have never heard of a 1% fee on regular bank card transactions. I know there used to be a 25 cents fee for consumers when they wanted to pay small amounts by cards, but nowadays shops promote payments for this as well and it’s free everywhere. I think it’s a few cents per transaction for the seller.

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Re: DoChat – a Dockerized WeChat PC Windows client for Linux

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Post by Nextgrid »

opless wrote: post #51
dijit wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure if you know, but at least life in Sweden is pretty close to this. Contactless payments are everywhere (Apple/Samsung/Android pay) and the app “swish” works great for sending payments to people. Even some businesses have a swish QR code displayed in lieu of taking cash payments.

Same in the UK, you get at least £30 from your contactless card/Apple/Android pay. Some shops do more, an increasing large number allow a larger limit. However some large shops (Tesco) only allow large limits on their own payment apps, rather than Apple/android pay, forcing you to use your card and pin!

The £30 limit does not apply to mobile payments. There's no limit for those. I've successfully made 2k£ transactions with Apple Pay.

Re: DoChat – a Dockerized WeChat PC Windows client for Linux

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Post by gruez »

dx87 wrote: post #53
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this different from running any other piece of software from the internet?

The only real difference is that there are ways the server can know if you are downloading it for inspection, or if you're piping it straight to bash. A hacked/untrusted site could serve up a malicious script file if it detects that it's being sent straight into bash, and a clean script if you aren't. With most things you download from the Internet, you download then run the software if you want. Curl to bash is down…

> Curl to bash is download and run with no confirmation step in the middle.

Which is fine, because almost nobody is going to thoroughly inspect the code anyways. The bash script looks pretty trivial, but it's running a privileged docker container, which means it has full root access. Are you really going to inspect every nook and cranny of the docker container for exploits?

Re: DoChat – a Dockerized WeChat PC Windows client for Linux

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Post by microcolonel »

clubdorothe wrote: post #10

I went back to China for a month in December 2019. It's crazy how Wechat payment is now used everywhere. Any shops in China (I believe 99% of them): in wechat, you have "wallet" that generates QR code. Go to any shop, at the counter, show the QR code generated, they have the machine (or wechat app) to scan it. done. Crazy efficient. Most of the people there don't bring wallets anymore. Most of the restaurants in Shen…

I don't really have an issue in Canada with payments. Contactless w/ Visa/Amex/Interac is basically ubiquitous, and cash is fine when you don't want to rely on the networks. That thing you describe with Starbucks is here too, not that I really care about waiting 90 seconds for a beverage at a Starbucks, on the occasion that I visit one.

Re: DoChat – a Dockerized WeChat PC Windows client for Linux

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Post by daveFNbuck »

wendyshu wrote: post #52
odiroot wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been to Chengdu and Shenzhen in 2017. People were sometimes sighing and rolling their eyes when I tried to pay with cash. Even worse with cards.

Why are cards worse?

You need special equipment to accept cards.
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