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Microsoft apparently removing ‘Offline Accounts’ for international Windows users

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Re: Microsoft apparently removing ‘Offline Accounts’ for international Windows users

#41

I use Linux, I am pretty ambivalent about Windows, I don't like adware and telemetry in my paid-for software but if they really start doing that honestly that will irritate me enough to start pushing people to Ubuntu when that's possible.

Microsoft has been giving people reasons to switch to Linux for quite a while. They started with the major overhaul of the Office UI. Then they came out with Windows 10. Ubuntu and Libre Office are just so much easier to work with.

Re: Microsoft apparently removing ‘Offline Accounts’ for international Windows users

#42

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I think it was one of those cheap Alcatel phones with Android One. I don't remember well myself but I'm pretty sure it was Alcatel. I ended up helping him getting a LG G6 and for his usage it's more than enough power for him. (plus cheap in 2019 when I bought it) All problems solved. Not sure what went wrong with his phone but I couldn't even do anything with the recovery mode and resetting to factory.

Alcatel doesn't have Android One, at least not internationally. They have Android Go, which is the less-resource-intensive version. However, Alcatel is absolutely awful with privacy and some of the software bundled is absolute scam-ware. Even older devices got updates via Play store for system apps like Calculator, File manager, etc., which introduced ads, and a (!!!) floating blue octopus on (every) screen which sho…

Then I have no idea what it was (phone brand), sorry. I just know with what I tried to troubleshoot.

I'm not a fan of Alcatel.... or Blu. But translating what you just told me to not just my parents but all older folks is.... not an easy task. It's met with apathy.

Re: Microsoft apparently removing ‘Offline Accounts’ for international Windows users

#43

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At the moment, it's clear what the direction of travel is.

True, and even in Pro you are prompted to “finish setup” (attach a Microsoft account) according to the Thurrott article. All I can point to is that every other operating system with cloud backup services has gone the same way. It’s hard to backup a local account to the cloud when it’s not synced and once synced, why force users to remember different passwords? Combining accounts does make life easier for most folks..…

Also its brilliant business because when cloud goes out fashion(as it does cyclically) they can sell the same software again 'redesigned' for standalone/local usage.

Re: Microsoft apparently removing ‘Offline Accounts’ for international Windows users

#44

I use Linux, I am pretty ambivalent about Windows, I don't like adware and telemetry in my paid-for software but if they really start doing that honestly that will irritate me enough to start pushing people to Ubuntu when that's possible.

I think it would be wonderful if people abandon Windows for alternatives but that won't happen. People are somehow utterly enthralled by that crapware.

Re: Microsoft apparently removing ‘Offline Accounts’ for international Windows users

#45

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At the moment, it's clear what the direction of travel is.

True, and even in Pro you are prompted to “finish setup” (attach a Microsoft account) according to the Thurrott article. All I can point to is that every other operating system with cloud backup services has gone the same way. It’s hard to backup a local account to the cloud when it’s not synced and once synced, why force users to remember different passwords? Combining accounts does make life easier for most folks..…

The first an article about this article appeared, they had changed the button name. I've recently setuped another Windows, Pro edition, and they did revert the button name to "Or make an offline account". This button is available when they ask you to connect or create a microsoft account in the setup.

Re: Microsoft apparently removing ‘Offline Accounts’ for international Windows users

#46

I use Linux, I am pretty ambivalent about Windows, I don't like adware and telemetry in my paid-for software but if they really start doing that honestly that will irritate me enough to start pushing people to Ubuntu when that's possible.

As much as I use Linux for everyday use and dislike windows lately, Linux is still too high-tech for normal people to use. Without terminal command it's hard to manage services, etc. Moreover many drivers and games only available and optimized for windows only.

Re: Microsoft apparently removing ‘Offline Accounts’ for international Windows users

#47

I use Linux, I am pretty ambivalent about Windows, I don't like adware and telemetry in my paid-for software but if they really start doing that honestly that will irritate me enough to start pushing people to Ubuntu when that's possible.

As much as I use Linux for everyday use and dislike windows lately, Linux is still too high-tech for normal people to use. Without terminal command it's hard to manage services, etc. Moreover many drivers and games only available and optimized for windows only.

Careful. You're gunning for someone linuxsplaining how their grandpa has used Arch for years without difficulty, so you must be just wrong about all the normal people you know who find linux too hard.

(I'm exclusively a linux user for now, but really .. linux people can be such a pain).

Re: Microsoft apparently removing ‘Offline Accounts’ for international Windows users

#49
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This might be old news. The “Offline Account” link appears in Windows 10 Pro but not Windows 10 Home. It’s unclear which version this is. https://www.thurrott.com/windows/windows-10/222344/microsoft...

Agreed, what they say Microsoft is "starting to export outside NA" is already the norm here in France since at least this summer.

If the computer is connected to the network in anyway, there is absolutely no way to install with an offline account. Removing all rj45 and not connecting to the wifi until that step is passed allows to use a local account like before.

Still not a path I like to see them take

Re: Microsoft apparently removing ‘Offline Accounts’ for international Windows users

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This is not true. I have Win 10 Pro on my work laptop. It's very much "paid in full". Some of the things I paid in full for include Bubble Witch 3 Saga, Candy Crush Saga and Candy Crush Friends, and the Start menu came pre-populated with a bunch of ads for similarly useful apps (edit: among other things). Edit: if someone who's more Windows-savvy than this ol' Unix nerd knows what information I ought to edit out of a…

Apparently when a GNU/Linux installation shows messages to try out stuff, it is "spreading the good for the community", or has a modified motd, when one gets a couple of links on the start menu, easily removed by right clicking on them, it is "bloody Microsoft".

When Ubuntu does it you will see a ton of complaining, like if it shows you some text and a link that you can disable easily and still people complain, I think people are consistent and you should consider that say Ubuntu is free and Canonical is not profitable where Microsoft is extremely rich and after you paid for the OS they still want to suck more money from you.
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