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Paris Mayor: It's Time for a '15-Minute City'

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Re: Paris Mayor: It's Time for a '15-Minute City'

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More convenience stores will be needed. Ones with longer hours.

Not sure I want to trade availability of good butchers, bakers, etc. for more convenience stores. For toilet paper and toothpaste, I can manage with one convenience store being open from 9AM to 9PM ... Btw,there are experiments with larger open hours thanks to cashless automatic machines (you scan & pay by yourself, only 1 security guy is present)

Re: Paris Mayor: It's Time for a '15-Minute City'

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I wonder how many more jobs are needed to make this possible. You'd need more of everything, plus longer/staggered open hours (who decides what hours make the most sense, for which districts?). On the plus side, you'd have more convenience and less need for vehicle transit. On the potentially negative side, how many of these jobs would realistically pay a living wage?

Not if you squeezed everyone into a smaller area.

Re: Paris Mayor: It's Time for a '15-Minute City'

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do Parisian convenience stores close at night? Chinese urban convenience stores don't; even here in the American suburbs CVS is open 24 hours, and so is Safeway.

>"even here in America" Not to derail the conversation, byt why the 'even'? 24h-stores seem like an inherently american concept to me (I'm german, so France is right around the corner)

> Not to derail the conversation, byt why the 'even'?

Well, you might notice that even though you put two different sets of quotation marks on it, the text you're attributing to me isn't what I wrote. It's "even" because I'm contrasting an urban environment, where 24-hour stores are a baseline expectation, with a suburban environment, where they aren't but we have them anyway.

Re: Paris Mayor: It's Time for a '15-Minute City'

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I lived in Japan for a few years and I felt like they’ve nailed this concept. Everyone I knew across different parts of Tokyo lived within a 10 min walk of a supermarket, school, nursery, doctor, train station etc. It worked really well.

and greenery and work?

Re: Paris Mayor: It's Time for a '15-Minute City'

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I lived in Japan for a few years and I felt like they’ve nailed this concept. Everyone I knew across different parts of Tokyo lived within a 10 min walk of a supermarket, school, nursery, doctor, train station etc. It worked really well.

10 minute walk away from a supermarket only gets you so far when you spend an hour in one direction commuting since you probably go to work more often than you go grocery shopping.

Re: Paris Mayor: It's Time for a '15-Minute City'

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Paris needs to go one step further and remodel itself so that residents can have all their needs met—be they for work, shopping, health, or culture—within 15 minutes of their own doorstep. As someone that has spent a lot of time living in Paris, this is already pretty much true, at least within the Périphérique. The main issue in my experience is the lack of green space; there are surprisingly few parks in Paris.

Because Paris is really small and the large parks are just outside Paris : Bois de Vincennes & Bois de Boulogne are each at least twice the size of Central Park I hope you didn't miss Parc de Buttes Chaumont, Parc Montsouris & my favourite : Cimetière du Père Lachaise (yes, a cemetery ... I recommend going at spring and enjoy how green it is)

Re: Paris Mayor: It's Time for a '15-Minute City'

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do Parisian convenience stores close at night? Chinese urban convenience stores don't; even here in the American suburbs CVS is open 24 hours, and so is Safeway.

>"even here in America" Not to derail the conversation, byt why the 'even'? 24h-stores seem like an inherently american concept to me (I'm german, so France is right around the corner)

When it comes to opening times of stores, us Germans are way behind everybody else...

Re: Paris Mayor: It's Time for a '15-Minute City'

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>"even here in America" Not to derail the conversation, byt why the 'even'? 24h-stores seem like an inherently american concept to me (I'm german, so France is right around the corner)

> Not to derail the conversation, byt why the 'even'? Well, you might notice that even though you put two different sets of quotation marks on it, the text you're attributing to me isn't what I wrote. It's "even" because I'm contrasting an urban environment, where 24-hour stores are a baseline expectation, with a suburban environment, where they aren't but we have them anyway.

My bad, that was inappropriate. That being said: I wouldn't call them a baseline expectation in urban environments. I live in a city of 250k people, and I don't think we have a 24h-store here.

Re: Paris Mayor: It's Time for a '15-Minute City'

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post #26

Paris needs to go one step further and remodel itself so that residents can have all their needs met—be they for work, shopping, health, or culture—within 15 minutes of their own doorstep. As someone that has spent a lot of time living in Paris, this is already pretty much true, at least within the Périphérique. The main issue in my experience is the lack of green space; there are surprisingly few parks in Paris.

Because Paris is really small and the large parks are just outside Paris : Bois de Vincennes & Bois de Boulogne are each at least twice the size of Central Park I hope you didn't miss Parc de Buttes Chaumont, Parc Montsouris & my favourite : Cimetière du Père Lachaise (yes, a cemetery ... I recommend going at spring and enjoy how green it is)

Yes yes, I have been to all of those and lived right next to Buttes-Chaumont. But the city in general always felt like it lacked green space. Especially if you make a large circle around Opéra - for 2-3km you really don’t have anything that isn’t small or full of people.

That said - Buttes-Chaumont and Le Jardin du Palais Royale are some of my favorite urban parks in the world.

Re: Paris Mayor: It's Time for a '15-Minute City'

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At 1% interests rate, that's e12.000 a year, e1000 a month. Not bad.

Is it 1% interest rate over there?

Yes, in Eurozone countries, 10 year fixed mortgage are typically 0.99%.

It's amazingly cheap. Down from 3.5% ten years ago.

The downside of low rates is house prices correspondingly very high.

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