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Radical hydrogen-boron reactor leapfrogs current nuclear fusion tech?

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This proves once again what could happen if one is not to follow the herd.

“He called this in the 70s, he said this would be possible. It's only possible now because these brand new lasers are capable of doing it.“

He knew it would work 50 years ago.

I imagine there are ideas being discussed today that will come to fruition 50 years from now.

... or 30 years. Our choice.

Re: Radical hydrogen-boron reactor leapfrogs current nuclear fusion tech?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Check the publications page for the encouraging part. They might be wrong but they're doing real science. I've personally spoken to a fusion scientist who thought they might be on to something. Exponential progress does sometimes have results that seem too good to be true. In this case the progress has been in picosecond lasers, which for a while have been getting ten times more powerful every three years or so. What…

Thanks to yourself and randallsquared below for your responses - I'd since posting read the following Abstract by the authors, which hinted that the underlying science was viable: https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/laser-and-particle-b... , however my only awareness of existing 'laser fusion facilities' was the American National Ignition Facility ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Ignition_Facility ) , whi…

The science is difficult for a layperson (such as myself) to pick apart, but the above-mentioned publications page[0] links directly to at least one paper[1] which contains some promising detail.

[0] https://www.hb11.energy/news-and-publications [1] https://aca3d9dd-3b9c-446b-8797-0ba1cdb49ccb.filesusr.com/ug...

Re: Radical hydrogen-boron reactor leapfrogs current nuclear fusion tech?

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Cool thing about this is that it will be a direct energy capture if I understand it correctly.

"The hydrogen/boron fusion creates a couple of helium atoms," he continues. "They're naked heliums, they don't have electrons, so they have a positive charge. We just have to collect that charge. Essentially, the lack of electrons is a product of the reaction and it directly creates the current."

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This seems.. too good to be true? I don't have the Physics chops to untangle the likelihood of this tech and the credibility of the process and its authors, so I'm hoping the HN crowd will be able to pad out the story behind this. Certainly, from my layperson's perspective, their website isn't exactly encouraging... https://www.hb11.energy/ - ed re: last line - "books and covers, and all that"

The big problem with H-B11 and other heavier fusion processes is that the energy radiated away as brehmsstrahlung is greater that the energy gain from the fusion. This was worked out by Todd Rider in his 1995 PhD thesis. Yeah, in theory it might be possible to capture the brehmsstrahlung and pump it back into the reactor with sufficiently high efficiency, but we're pretty far away from that. That being said, all thes…

Yes, but Rider based that on various assumptions, and included an appendix on various ways those assumptions might be violated to achieve net power with aneutronic fuels. I think this reactor would qualify, since it doesn't rely on thermal heating.

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Google polywell the US military has been funding this for the past 20 years. There are some issues that might be solved with scaling the device. A company called emc2 was spun off this US military project.

Polywell is a completely different method.

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I have long thought this fuel was a far better fit. Really in a practical sense, you don't get that much benefit from most tritium fusion reactors compared to fission. Meaning that compared to what we have now, fusion and fission are so much more efficient anyway.

The primary problem for fission is state regulation and large cost even if you didn't have to pass regulation. And most fusion concepts can't really address that much better.

Directly creating current rather then having a whole heat to electricity transformation might allow the whole thing to be much cheaper.

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> and most rely on a deuterium-tritium thermonuclear fusion approach that requires the creation of ludicrously hot temperatures, much hotter than the surface of the Sun, at up to 15 million degrees Celsius (27 million degrees Fahrenheit).

Surface of the Sun - 6000 C

Center of the Sun - 15000000 C

Re: Radical hydrogen-boron reactor leapfrogs current nuclear fusion tech?

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Can someone explain why this is considered fusion? The reaction involves shooting a proton (hydrogen) at a boron nuclei and outputting 3 alpha particles. That seems more like the nuclei being split apart than fused together.

The explanation I've heard from a fusion scientist is that as far as they're concerned, if you're initiating the reaction by colliding nuclei, it's fusion, and if you're initiating it by hitting a large nucleus with a neutron, it's fission.

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Can someone explain why this is considered fusion? The reaction involves shooting a proton (hydrogen) at a boron nuclei and outputting 3 alpha particles. That seems more like the nuclei being split apart than fused together.

The explanation I've heard from a fusion scientist is that as far as they're concerned, if you're initiating the reaction by colliding nuclei, it's fusion, and if you're initiating it by hitting a large nucleus with a neutron, it's fission.

Makes sense, thanks!
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