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Why Germans won’t heat their homes even with free electricity?

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Re: Why Germans won’t heat their homes even with free electricity?

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And there will never be a nuclear disaster in china. Ah the wonders of progress and dictatorships

So, Fukushima disaster could be blamed on Japanese dictatorship?

GP is being part sarcastic, part claiming that China would just keep it under wraps. It worked for the Soviets, for three whole days.

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Thank you. But how do you hang wet clothes and not ruin your floors? Sorry if I sound stupid. American apartments aren't set up for this and I would rather handle it this way and I've had challenges.

Most washing machines have the spin cycle which removes almost all water that could drip out. So I haven't noticed any water that drips out as such. Also, you have a specific place in some apartments for this with different type of floor.

Yeah, okay, to be fair, I was hand washing clothes, not machine washing. And I do recall living in Germany and there were places to hang wet things that we don't have in American apartments.

But I've seen some hang-to-dry things that could be used over a bathtub.

Thank you!

I at least have a place to start doing research.

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> building endlessly regardless of demand, pulling money from government But that's not what happens. Germany has a tight control over how much is build every year. Actually there are lots of complaints that currently Germany builds not enough renewable energy capacity per year.

Very weird... drive the market into a very non market and price to 0...but still manage it the other way.

The market currently has some weird effects, but the 0 price you mention is not the price of electricity on the market. It is the price on the spot market in some days or hours. The whole market is larger than short-term traded electricity.

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I'm not the OP, but share his views. I wash my clothes in the washing machine, then hang them to dry, that's all there is to it. It takes time (about a day) and some space for the clothes hanger in a rather small apartment, but that doesn't bother me.

Thank you. But how do you hang wet clothes and not ruin your floors? Sorry if I sound stupid. American apartments aren't set up for this and I would rather handle it this way and I've had challenges.

All modern washing machines spin >1000 RPM in the end. Clothes are pretty dry already after that, there's no dripping.

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Thank you. But how do you hang wet clothes and not ruin your floors? Sorry if I sound stupid. American apartments aren't set up for this and I would rather handle it this way and I've had challenges.

Unless I put too much in the washing machine that it can't spin properly, most things don't drip when they are hung up. And for thick wool jumpers that do drip we have a mesh thing to lay them on over the bathtub, and anyway the floor is tiled.

Thanks.

Most US apartments have wall-to-wall carpeting, not wood or tile floors. God, how I hate it.

Re: Why Germans won’t heat their homes even with free electricity?

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Here in UK on certain tariffs (Octopus Agile) price of electricity regularly falls below zero at night. If you have an electric car set to only charge when price of electricity is below zero, you're getting paid to charge your car.

Being in the UK myself, I'm curious about this. Does Octopus provide the price of electricity at the current moment? I had a quick look at their website but couldn't see anything obvious.

They do, they expose it via an API, so you can use IFTTT (or anything you make that's similar to this) to optimise when you use power.

This website does some analysis on the pricing: https://www.energy-stats.uk/octopus-agile/

The useful part is that, if a user of the tariff is sufficiently engaged, not only do they save money, but by shifting their demand to follow supply it helps with the increasing adoption of renewable sources.

Re: Why Germans won’t heat their homes even with free electricity?

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Here in UK on certain tariffs (Octopus Agile) price of electricity regularly falls below zero at night. If you have an electric car set to only charge when price of electricity is below zero, you're getting paid to charge your car.

Being in the UK myself, I'm curious about this. Does Octopus provide the price of electricity at the current moment? I had a quick look at their website but couldn't see anything obvious.

https://www.nordpoolgroup.com/Market-data1/#/n2ex/table this is the market price you need to find out the margin + transmission costs yourself.

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> On Monday 10th February 2020 something historical happened. For the first time, the market price of electricity fell below zero in Finland.(...) While this single day was a very windy one... I feel I should point out that "a very windy day" is a big understatement. February 10, 2020 was the day when storm Sabine arrived in northern Europe. In Germany, all medium and long distance trains stopped (electric trains, bt…

We called it storm Ciara in the UK. I wonder why we don’t unify names.

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Interesting, I live in Denmark, and we pay a premium for electricity.. Average consumer price is 0,33 USD per KW/h, almost three times the US average.

We use the most expensive power provider in Germany (Greenpeace Energy) and it's also 0,33 USD per KW/h.
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