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Think you want to die at home? You might want to think twice about that

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Re: Think you want to die at home? You might want to think twice about that

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I've had the privilege of seeing my parents take care of two of my grandparents in my parents' home after my grandparents couldn't take care of themselves any more. (In one case, for their final week, in the other case, for over 5 years.) I look forward to taking care of my parents in my home whenever they get to that point.

If you're going to do long-term care, make it easy on yourself. It can quickly become extremely taxing both mentally and physically.

It may become a challenge to get the help you need - either time or finances.

Spend money early on helpful tools. It is easier than you realize to get things like patient lifts, stair chairs or helpful beds. Older folks use them for a time and sell them for a pittance or give them away.

A good bed can help with reading, sleeping and snoring, and there are some amazing ones that transform (as cool as autobots and decepticons) from beds into chairs that can roll around.

check out https://www.hillrom.com/en-us/products/smart-beds-and-surfac...

Re: Think you want to die at home? You might want to think twice about that

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I feel like more people should consider euthanasia. If caring for you is a huge physical and financial burden, and you're basically waiting to die anyway , why not just get it over with?

I'm pro right to die, but it's complicated. If we start killing people "because you are a burden to your family," that's a rather ugly slippery slope that flies in the face of most moral and legal precedents that say "Love and legal obligation mean staying to the bitter end and never faltering in your duty."

Most people with something terribly wrong are holding out hope for some new breakthrough -- some new drug or therapeutic treatment -- that will finally fix them. A lot of people can't quite commit to euthanasia because "what if they find a cure a week later?"

I think I should have the right to say "Nope. I'm done with this crap." I don't think other people should have the right to decide "Well, if you conveniently die now, we can still afford that vacation....um, I mean, we hate seeing you suffer! That's what I mean!"

Re: Think you want to die at home? You might want to think twice about that

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post #6

I feel like more people should consider euthanasia. If caring for you is a huge physical and financial burden, and you're basically waiting to die anyway , why not just get it over with?

I'm absolutely pro euthanasia. When I'm old I would definitely not want to be a burden on someone, nor would I want to live like a disabled. I feel there is no dignity in it.

However, I'm seriously worried that this opinion might change once I'm at that point.

Re: Think you want to die at home? You might want to think twice about that

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Extremely biased article, bordering on propaganda. Not everyone dying is an ongoing expensive burden, and care facilities aren't miracle cures. Many people need somewhere to rest on their way out.

How can someone relating their personal experience be "biased"?

Anecdotally (in my experience as a paramedic), I agree that many people significantly underestimate how hard it is to care for someone who is dying.

Re: Think you want to die at home? You might want to think twice about that

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post #6

I feel like more people should consider euthanasia. If caring for you is a huge physical and financial burden, and you're basically waiting to die anyway , why not just get it over with?

I'm absolutely pro euthanasia. When I'm old I would definitely not want to be a burden on someone, nor would I want to live like a disabled. I feel there is no dignity in it. However, I'm seriously worried that this opinion might change once I'm at that point.

> I'm absolutely pro euthanasia.

> However, I'm seriously worried that this opinion might change once I'm at that point.

There's always the option to go for it right now while you're still absolutely pro.

But if that doesn't appeal to you, then ask yourself, are you really sure you're in favor?

Re: Think you want to die at home? You might want to think twice about that

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post #6

I feel like more people should consider euthanasia. If caring for you is a huge physical and financial burden, and you're basically waiting to die anyway , why not just get it over with?

I'm pro right to die, but it's complicated. If we start killing people "because you are a burden to your family," that's a rather ugly slippery slope that flies in the face of most moral and legal precedents that say "Love and legal obligation mean staying to the bitter end and never faltering in your duty." Most people with something terribly wrong are holding out hope for some new breakthrough -- some new drug or t…

I don't think there is a euthanasia bill passed or even on the table in the entire planet where "we start killing people because you" is acceptable.

That's just plain FUD.

They are all, "The patient, being of sound mind, jumps through a large bunch of legal hurdles to be permitted to exit peacefully and painlessly."

> "Most people with something terribly wrong are holding out hope"

We're talking about people inches from death here. If they had hope they would be in hospital. They no longer have hope, only pain.

> A lot of people can't quite commit to euthanasia because "what if they find a cure a week later?"

A lot of people want euthanasia as a barrier against fear... "There have been some terrible days, and I'm certain I'm dying, and as I die, it will get worse. If it gets intolerable, I can opt out... it's not intolerable today, so I can hold on another day."

Re: Think you want to die at home? You might want to think twice about that

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Extremely biased article, bordering on propaganda. Not everyone dying is an ongoing expensive burden, and care facilities aren't miracle cures. Many people need somewhere to rest on their way out.

This was not about the paients per se, but about the caregivers.

Re: Think you want to die at home? You might want to think twice about that

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post #6

I feel like more people should consider euthanasia. If caring for you is a huge physical and financial burden, and you're basically waiting to die anyway , why not just get it over with?

I'm pro right to die, but it's complicated. If we start killing people "because you are a burden to your family," that's a rather ugly slippery slope that flies in the face of most moral and legal precedents that say "Love and legal obligation mean staying to the bitter end and never faltering in your duty." Most people with something terribly wrong are holding out hope for some new breakthrough -- some new drug or t…

Look into hospice care where people actually go to die. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hospice

That’s already about a minimum cost and minimum suffering exit. Many people’s choices are extreme pain or so drugged on opioids they effectively take an early exit either way. Adding a 3rd choice is really not about giving up hope, that’s long gone at that point.

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