Jeb Bush spent $130 million to lose the Republican primary. Hillary Clinton spent probably an order of magnitude more to lose the general election. Both outspent Donald Trump just to lose to him in their respective races. Money isn't everything and Bloomberg is risking alienating voters with his ham fisted advertising. His ads on YouTube are non-skippable. He paid extra for that yet it's more likely to anger viewers than to get their votes. If his social media army is just as obnoxious in their campaigning for him, well, a fool and their money are soon parted.
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#472Yesterday it struck me that a quality i look for in a leader is integrity. E.g. their unwillingness to be bribed by wealth and luxury.
I think some Americans might be misinterpreting Trump's and Bloomberg's position. Their personal wealth made them jaded, not immune or uninterested in the idea.
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Don’t forget to pay your exit tax.
Is this real?
Yes though the official name is Expatriation Tax. https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/expa...
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#474So he's hiring a bunch of barely-over minimum wage workers to spread his message... and? What do you think the other politicians are doing with the millions they raise? This isn't a story.
Do some searches on Google. You will discover that Bloomberg is paying employees much more than other presidential candidates.
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Healthy? No. But its as American as apple pie. Everything these days,in America is based on money. The entire political process is based on money (fundraising determines whether you're even on the ballot or a debate or able to be on a ticket) and controlled by money as there is a direct correlation between media spend and campaign success. The worst part is that the "media" is the one sector in our country that has t…
That's why we need public funding of elections... Bloomberg can spend a billion, and who benefits the most? MSNBC, CNN, Facebook, so of course when he's not paying they STILL prop him up because the longer he stays in the race the more $$ they collectively make, who cares if it destroys America in the process as long as there's a paycheck.
But I thought MSNBC and CNN had best interests of viewers in mind and President Trump is wrong to label them as fake and enemy of the people?
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The "right process" is whichever one ends up nominating Hillary Clinton. ... I'm only partly joking; I am not a fan of the idea that there are some special gatekeepers or One True Process™ for determining who's allowed to talk to voters. The things Bloomberg has meaningfully "wrong" in terms of process look something like this: - he is be a rich person (definitely not trendy in the party), and... - his failure to sol…
It is difficult to have these conversations and not think that people are just determining right and wrong by whatever they do or do not like based on what is immediately in front of them
You’ve noticed huh?
Politics lately seems to be:1) paint candidate in the best light, 2) paint opponent in the worst light.
Note: there is no requirement to have a consistent set of rules to do this.
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At the very least I wish the parties would split themselves. The Democrats seems to have both a socdem wing and a more neoliberal wing and the Republicans a growing right wing populist wing and the standard neocons. Maybe this is oversimplified, but I feel like these should be different parties
Yes. But they're kind of stuck to each other. Really I agree that we have 4 major constituencies stuck within 2 parties. First past the post and single member districts kind of force it to be that way.
This is the sad truth. Try being a person who leans conservative, having the absolute racists of society be on your team. I imagine it's not much different than a liberal leaning person getting all the crazies on their side. I wish there were distinct parties for reasonable people...
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#478Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is difficult to have these conversations and not think that people are just determining right and wrong by whatever they do or do not like based on what is immediately in front of them
You’ve noticed huh? Politics lately seems to be:1) paint candidate in the best light, 2) paint opponent in the worst light. Note: there is no requirement to have a consistent set of rules to do this.
> Politics lately
Mark Twain: Running for Governor [Written about 1870]
https://www.gutenberg.org/files/3189/3189-h/3189-h.htm#gover...
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Andrew yang offered Americans 1k/month... maybe he should have offered 1k/month in booze, opioids and football tickets instead
I have no answers as to why Andrew Yang did not poll more than 1-5% in Iowa/New Hampshire.
He was the only candidate I could relate to.