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Re: How to take smart notes with Org mode

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Post by jethroksy » Wed, Feb 19, 2020, 8:26 AM UTC

giloux314 wrote: post #70

jethroksy wrote: post #61

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Glad you enjoyed the articles! > My question is : in what way should I modify my current note files to be compatible with org-roam ? In contrast to zetteldeft, the links in org-roam are real file links. This means you need to replace all of the zetteldeft links with actual org file-links. That should be all the changes required I think.

I just gave it a try. It is so easy to insert a link/backlink ! Adopted.

good to hear (: feel free to make feature requests/bug reports on the repo. It should become a lot more stable soon, then we can start making it more awesome.

Re: How to take smart notes with Org mode

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Post by shakezula » Thu, Feb 20, 2020, 12:01 AM UTC

juandazapata wrote: post #9

shakezula wrote: post #3

> Notes aren’t a record of my thinking process. They are my thinking process. – Richard Feynman I haven’t ever found a quote that described how i approach software as succinctly as this. I use a bullet journal religiously and it’s specifically because of this. Great article.

Out of curiosity, is your bullet journal digital?

No, it's physical. That's on purpose, because it requires me to sit down at the beginning of my day and pull it out. The writing and routine of it is very therapeutic. I normally do it over my morning coffee and reddit/hn browsing.

Re: How to take smart notes with Org mode

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Post by shakezula » Thu, Feb 20, 2020, 12:27 AM UTC

chrisweekly wrote: post #18

shakezula wrote: post #3

> Notes aren’t a record of my thinking process. They are my thinking process. – Richard Feynman I haven’t ever found a quote that described how i approach software as succinctly as this. I use a bullet journal religiously and it’s specifically because of this. Great article.

Love the quote and the idea too. Check out Roam^1 which completely changed my relationship to note-taking. 1 https://roamresearch.com

I actually use Roam quite regularly! However, I have found Roam is better for solidifying and consolidating my handwritten notes at a later point.

For me it goes: 1 - handwritten brain dump 2 - Re-read my notes, analyze them and prep them for consolidation. This means writing down questions I have, updating notes I took that I might have better understanding of now, etc... 3 - Consolidate and import them into Roam with links and supplementary materials (images, code snippets, etc...)

Re: How to take smart notes with Org mode

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Post by feanaro » Thu, Feb 20, 2020, 9:09 AM UTC

efls wrote: post #64

feanaro wrote: post #60

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> TBH Sometimes I've looked up previous bookmarks or notes, and they didn't have the keywords or tags I was expecting. I also use a personal set of scripts for Zettelkasten (in combination with rofi) and I do encounter this sometimes. I've come to the conclusion that it's not a large problem: as long as you find the notes you're looking for most of the time, it's good. I think the problem of always finding all notes…

Part of the Zettelkasten philosophy is that it requires you to actively work on links between notes. Some notes are simply forgotten, Luhmann (the original Zettelkasten master) used to say, unless they are indexed into your system.

Yes, and I do actively work on the links. My point is there is no need for perfection here. Good enough is good enough.

If some of the notes are forgotten, so be it. I place my requirements and expectations on the system as a whole, not on each particular note. If the overall system is useful and serves me well, I don't care if some of the notes are forgotten and I've reduced my workload and note loss anxiety by several orders of magnitude. This is what I meant by diminishing returns.

However, with full-text search, it's hard to imagine how any note could be forgotten completely, unless it contains no text at all. This is something Luhmann did not have.