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Re: Google Fonts Analytics

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Post by codyb »

tjoff wrote: post #116
lwf wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To answer "track users across different websites", I think they pretty clearly say the opposite: > The Google Fonts API is designed to limit the collection, storage, and use of end-user data to what is needed to serve fonts efficiently. > When millions of websites all link to the same fonts, they are cached after visiting the first website and appear instantly on all other subsequently visited sites. [...] The result…

They do not say the opposite. Apparently they need to collect and store end-user data for serving fonts efficiently. Wonder what that could be... And if that information happens to be enough for further tracking then it seems to be fair game!

Couldn’t it just be for edge server location determination?

Not a Google fan, but at their volume of traffic seems like it could be something they’ve optimized for.

Re: Google Fonts Analytics

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Post by umeshunni »

aloer wrote: post #56

The operating system stats are interesting. Looks like Macs have roughly a 17% share of the windows + mac total requests. The overall market share per wikipedia ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_share_of_personal_compu... ) is something like 7% for Apple. Fonts are probably used by most "normal" computer users in some way so I wonder where that difference comes from - windows breaks faster and must be replaced m…

> More windows systems not connected to the internet?

More Windows devices are in corporate/enterprise environments and are less likely to be used for casual web browsing?

Re: Google Fonts Analytics

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Post by londons_explore »

Symbiote wrote: post #77
jsnell wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The OS table has entry for X11 with maybe 2-3% shaer; I'd bet that's desktop Linux.

That's an impressive figure. Macintosh (desktop Mac?) is slightly less than double the X11 figure. https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share has Linux usage at just under 1%.

Lots of "browse the web from this phone box" and "the departures board in the train station that shows a webpage" will be Linux.

I bet many of them use Google Fonts, and with them auto-refreshing every 5 seconds all day long, they might get seriously overcounted.

Re: Google Fonts Analytics

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Post by londons_explore »

daveslash wrote: post #105

[ctrl]+[home] keyboard shortcut doesn't work on this page in FireFox. I had some trouble with [ctrl]+[end]. It's quite disappointing to see basic webpage/document functionality broken on a site claiming to improve the web experience. Maybe I'm just an old-fashioned web user.

Highlighting text and scrolling is broken too.

Re: Google Fonts Analytics

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Post by m463 »

basilgohar wrote: post #60
ckdarby wrote: post #5

How to track everyone, everywhere.

Pretty much. Provide a basic service to the Internet and get the benefit of sucking-in all that usage data. Here's to hoping we somehow figure out how to use something in the future without handing over our data at the same time. And don't tell me "we did this to ourselves because we didn't want to pay for it with money, so we pay for it with privacy", you pay companies and they still do this. It's just too tempting…

decentraleyes plugin, although I wish there was an easy way to add local sources

Re: Google Fonts Analytics

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Post by marcosdumay »

aloer wrote: post #56

The operating system stats are interesting. Looks like Macs have roughly a 17% share of the windows + mac total requests. The overall market share per wikipedia ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_share_of_personal_compu... ) is something like 7% for Apple. Fonts are probably used by most "normal" computer users in some way so I wonder where that difference comes from - windows breaks faster and must be replaced m…

> windows breaks faster and must be replaced more often

Or they are replaced more often just because they are cheaper.

There is a second hand market for Apple stuff, on the PC land that's unthinkable.

Re: Google Fonts Analytics

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Post by kevindong »

paxys wrote: post #37
jjeaff wrote: post #12

Wow, if you used Google Cloud CDN to serve up that data, it would cost you more than $1 Billion USD.

Got a source for that, or did you just make it up? Doing some very quick estimation I can't see it being more than $40-60 million, and that is using retail pricing.

I'm getting ~$130 million with these assumptions:

* each font load is 170 KB (I downloaded Roboto and that's the file size of one weight)

* 36.3 trillion font loads (per the source)

* 36.3 trillion * 170 KB/font load = ~6171 PB [0]

Plug 6171 PB into the GCP calculator [0] with all egress via GCP Cloud CDN to N. America and the bill comes out to just shy of $130 million.

OP is off by an order of magnitude by my napkin math, but it's closer than I was expecting.

[0]: https://www.google.com/search?q=36.3+trillion+KB+*+170+in+PB...

[1]: https://cloud.google.com/products/calculator#id=f75c7bdd-4c4...

Re: Google Fonts Analytics

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Post by jfkebwjsbx »

CoolGuySteve wrote: post #75
jfkebwjsbx wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Price has nothing to do with replacement rate. There are many bad laptop brands, though. 30% penetration in the USA. Here we are talking about global usage. In many other first-world countries Macs are nowhere to be seen, eg 3%.

> 30% penetration in the USA. Here we are talking about global usage. Then later in this same thread you say: > Webpages in non-latin alphabets probably use way less fonts from Google Fonts. So uh, which is it?

I don't follow. Precisely because we are talking about the global usage you have to consider webpages in non-latin alphabets which increase the ratio of Macs for latin alphabet countries.
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