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"I don't like it" doesn't mean "it's outdated". Today's heavy differences in population density is exactly why the great compromise was reached. How is it any different from when Virginia and Rhode Island were deciding if they should be part of the same country? If you don't like Trump, I have sympathy, I also hate the guy. But the Democratic Party used superdelegates to pick a notoriously unelectable candidate who w…
Well, for one, Virginia had an interest in Rhode Island being part of the US. Does California benefit from being in the same country as North Dakota? Apart from having their democratic ability in choosing their own executive diluted, not really. So "great" is really a question of great for who.
Indian police open case against hundreds in Kashmir for using VPN
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I'm gonna argue that all of those things are fungible commodities easily bought by the next supplier should they become unavailable from flyover country. Curious why you've lived for so long in a state you apparently have a lot of disdain for. There must be something keeping you there.
If they were so easily bought then they would be, but you missed the fact that the state is broke and can't pay for anything anyway. Family keeps my primary residence here, but that's irrelevant to the discussion. Here's an exercise: ask a CA resident to name 10 things that have gotten better over the last decade in this state. I'd be surprised if they name 1.
What state do you think is just full to the brim with people waiting to talk about how good things are?
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This comment is not full of factual inaccuracies. In-fact it doesn't cover the length and breadth of the atrocities happening in India. To cite some examples: - Kanhaiya Kumar (cited above), hundreds of students and even 10 year olds have sedition cases against them. - The competition has been decimated. BJP spends 3X more than all of the other parties combined together in Elections - Section 144 (prohibiting assembl…
It is factually inaccurate. VPNs are running all across India except in Kashmir. Stop this hyperbole. You can fool some people some of the time but not all people all the time. > The competition has been decimated. BJP spends 3X more than all of the other parties combined together in Elections How is this an atrocity? This is legitimate right of every party to spend how much ever it gets as donations from the public.…
To prevent riots government needs to produce better policies, so that there would be no need for a riot in the first place. Preventing peaceful assembly is not one of these policies.
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So we are going to go back to Pandits taking 75% of seats in NIT Srinagar? Is that acchhe din?
Don't lie. NIT Srinagar is governed by the AICTE. It cannot have different rules from NITs in the rest of the country. Your hatred for Kashmiri Pandits is clearly visible for all to see. You made multiple comments on the Pandits who have suffered the most. Have some shame.
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He did not even acknowledge the death of 13 people getting shot(including a higher secondary school girl) in the protest against a corporation. As a Prime Minister of a country this is the least expected .
No it's not expected. This is a State issue. If that was the case who acknowledged the genocide of Kashmiri Pandits? Who acknowledged the massacre of Sikhs in 1984 riots triggered by the Congress party? No one. So don't give your sob story. The Prime Minister is not responsible for the dereliction of duty by the State Government. Hold the State Government responsible! Modi is not responsible for everything under the…
https://india.mongabay.com/2020/01/tribal-population-of-jamm...
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So the solution would be to not have democracy until the unwashed uneducated masses become otherwise so? The East India company would've agreed with you :p
No. That is stupid. The solution is to make sure that education is never skimped on. The lesson for countries like US that are cutting education in favor of tax cuts is that lack of education in a electoral democracy is a self-fulfilling disaster.
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What's "wrong" is that it's very difficult to tell the difference between this and "The Indian government is taking action against spreading information and news via VPN enabled social media"
So if it's difficult to tell the difference, why celebrate one side of the story and that too by a western media which has no idea about the ground realities in Kashmir. The article is also written by someone who is not an expert in political journalism. Techcrunch should stick what it does best.
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It is factually inaccurate. VPNs are running all across India except in Kashmir. Stop this hyperbole. You can fool some people some of the time but not all people all the time. > The competition has been decimated. BJP spends 3X more than all of the other parties combined together in Elections How is this an atrocity? This is legitimate right of every party to spend how much ever it gets as donations from the public.…
> And Section 144 is better than riots. Prevention is better than cure. To prevent riots government needs to produce better policies, so that there would be no need for a riot in the first place. Preventing peaceful assembly is not one of these policies.
Apart from better policies, they also need enforceable ones, where local law enforcement is empowered to deal and contain where necessary.
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It is factually inaccurate. VPNs are running all across India except in Kashmir. Stop this hyperbole. You can fool some people some of the time but not all people all the time. > The competition has been decimated. BJP spends 3X more than all of the other parties combined together in Elections How is this an atrocity? This is legitimate right of every party to spend how much ever it gets as donations from the public.…
> And Section 144 is better than riots. Prevention is better than cure. To prevent riots government needs to produce better policies, so that there would be no need for a riot in the first place. Preventing peaceful assembly is not one of these policies.
No one prevented peaceful assembly. Shaheen Bagh is the best example where protestors have captured a public road illegally for 60+ days and neither the Government nor the Police are doing anything about it. Police and Administration only take action against rioters or those who indulge in vandalism of public property. The Deputy Commissioner of the local district gets first hand information on everything that happens in the district. The DC knows beyond doubt if the gathering is going to be peaceful or violent. We have highest levels of intelligence gathering and that has only increased and strengthened manifold after various terror attacks. Hence why the Supreme Court doesn't take the Centre to task neither does the High Court take the State to task over imposition of Section 144. The judges instead just give a rap on the fingers. That is because the administration has all details about the nature of protests and can provide adequate proof. If you really want to understand all this you should spend sometime with retired IAS officers and if they get to like you will tell you the workings of the system. You can't fool the administration into thinking that you can riot in the guise of "peaceful protests". The administration has various ways of intelligence gathering and knows exactly what the outcome of the gathering would be.
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Don't lie. NIT Srinagar is governed by the AICTE. It cannot have different rules from NITs in the rest of the country. Your hatred for Kashmiri Pandits is clearly visible for all to see. You made multiple comments on the Pandits who have suffered the most. Have some shame.
I don’t hate Pandits. I had Pandit classfellows in college and Hindu friends at college and school. Shame on you for implying this. I hate that things got to this point, that’s why I bring these things up. These are complaints that people had in 1980s and you aren’t going to erase them. NIT Srinagar was formerly “Regional Engineering College”
An NIT cannot be transformed back into an REC. I studied in NITK which was earlier KREC. When it becomes an NIT, AICTE rules apply. We had students from Kashmir studying in NITK too when I was pursuing my degree. Kashmiris have all benefits of applying for jobs, education and buying land anywhere in India but it wasn't possible for Indians to do the same as long as Article 370 existed. You talk about Pandits as if they stole your jobs and education. The 75% reservation for Pandits never existed. If you have a proof for it you are more than welcome to show. The fact of the matter is you don't. These sort of lies and deceit is what led to the Religious hysteria against Pandits eventually leading to their Genocide and Exodus. You should be thankful to them that they did not resort to violence or took revenge. You drove the Pandits out. Fine. Then what did you do? Did you send your children to schools and get them a good education in NIT Srinagar? You did not. You made them pick up stones and then when they graduated from stone pelting, thrust AK-47 in their hands. 30 years since the Exodus, Kashmiri Muslim children are not at all on par with the rest of India. I saw how my friends from Kashmir struggled in NITK. First of all their representation was so poor. Just 3 Kashmiri Muslims in the batch I graduated from. Rest of the States sent a minimum of 20 students. Worst part was that the 3 Kashmiri Muslim students had gotten admission through various quotas. If not for those quotas their ranks would never have gotten them seats in NITK. So what did you achieve by kicking out the Pandits? Did the Kashmiri children grow up to be Doctors, Engineers, Scientists or Artists? Barring a few exceptions here and there most still don't have access to basic education. Despite the fact that approximately 10% of annual budget was reserved for Jammu and Kashmir the past 3 decades. If my State (Karnataka) had gotten that kind of allocation from annual budget we would have transformed Karnataka into a World class State with Hi-Tech infrastructure and excellent education and health system. Not to mention the amount we would have spent on tourism! With the limited budget we could do so much. You get 10% of the annual budget every year for 30 years. And yet Jammu and Kashmir is lacking majorly in infrastructure and education. Who gobbled up all that money? Muftis, Abdullahs or the Geelanis? You can't even blame Jammu or Ladakh for this mismanagement and corruption because they were under your mercy. So stop lying. We are not stupid. We have done enough for Kashmir and did not get anything back in return. You couldn't manage anything. Neither monetary management nor instill social harmony. You were a failure in all counts. A failed society in Paradise. What can be a greater shame than that? Now that Article 370 has been abrogated, we'll do the management. You will then notice the real difference in the next few years once Terrorism has been reigned in. You'll also see what you lost in the process all these 30 years. Today Jammu, Kashmir and Ladakh should have been a model state with World class infrastructure for the kind of budget it received for 30 years. But unfortunately it is not. But now it'll be and you'll be a witness to that transformation. At least this time don't repeat the blunders of the past.
And before you point your finger at others first introspect on how big a failure you have been. Both as a movement and in your attitude towards your fellow brothers and sisters from another Religion. You fanned the hatred. Now don't cry if people at the receiving end of your hate are angry. We all have a limit. Don't test those limits.