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Bloomberg bankrolls a social-media army

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Re: Bloomberg bankrolls a social-media army

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Post by solinent »

Paid shills tend to have a strange effect where they polarize people in the other direction than intended since their arguments are not always well founded and honest, and they will always suffer from some form of groupthink. It's a slingshot effect--at first people fall for the farce, but soon they realize they have been mislead. It could even spoil the election and get some to vote in the opposite direction.

I think it's also pretty easy to spot these days and we're armed much better to fight it at the platform-level.

I don't think this will end well for Bloomberg, he has a long way to climb, and his name is literally associated with big money. He may have already reached saturation, and this is a dying move.

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Post by newshorts »

If Bloomberg get elected and successfully purchases the presidency, I’m moving my family out of the US. I will no long contribute to our collective GDP or pay taxes. I’ll vote with my feet if I can’t vote with my rights as an American citizen.

Re: Bloomberg bankrolls a social-media army

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Post by arrosenberg »

eej71 wrote: post #82
arrosenberg wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's both non-substantive and also incorrect. The United States is both a constitutional republic and a representative democracy. Ignoring the democracy part is a favorite trope of people who oppose it.

No one who supports the electoral college is opposed to the nature of democratic voting such as is used by the House of Representatives. I believe it's a strength of the US that we have different voting methodologies for different roles. One for the House and a _different_ (yet also fair!) methodology for the President. While these reasons were partially born as a result of compromise - the compromise is rooted in so…

> yet also fair! ... While these reasons were partially born as a result of compromise - the compromise is rooted in some good political theory.

You really want to celebrate a compromise that was made to enable to states to maintain chattel slavery? The electoral college is only fair in 2020 if your goal is to elect candidates who have fewer votes nationally. It no longer serves any philosophical or practical purpose.

Re: Bloomberg bankrolls a social-media army

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Post by seemslegit »

He would probably never do that, but I wouldn't begrudge Sanders if in case of a contested convention and having amassed the most delegates he would go 'Your call, but if you throw this to Bloomberg you should plan on a scenario of him running against Trump and myself as Independent' of course Bloomberg could do that too and in fact might be counting on it. And then it will be a game of chicken with a 2nd Trump presidency as the cliff, or maybe they'll just give it to Klobuchar

Re: Bloomberg bankrolls a social-media army

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Post by harryh »

anthm1988 wrote: post #116
A4ET8a8uTh0 wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe people are not idiots and are capable of judging their own interest. I do not subscribe to the 'they are basically children, we have to protect them'. To the candidate I believe in I give my donation. For someone I believe, I will spread their message for free. Him? He has to pay.

> I believe people are not idiots and are capable of judging their own interest. He's buying up media and politicians. People can't decide from themselves when he's spending a billion dollars to shape the narrative. If Bloomberg gets elected the US is done. It's not longer anything resembling democracy and the only thing that will save us from the new order will be revolution.

Can you decide for yourself still? Or is it just other people who can't decide?

Re: Bloomberg bankrolls a social-media army

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Post by seemslegit »

newshorts wrote: post #352

If Bloomberg get elected and successfully purchases the presidency, I’m moving my family out of the US. I will no long contribute to our collective GDP or pay taxes. I’ll vote with my feet if I can’t vote with my rights as an American citizen.

Which country gets that GDP in such a case ?

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Post by huebomont »

dagw wrote: post #318
takeda wrote: post #236

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Yeah it's really sad, Bloomberg essentially is Democratic version of Trump.

In what way, other than both being old, white, rich and from New York. Trump wanted to tack hard away from the center and to tear down the Republican establishment and rebuild it with a more populist vision. Bloomberg is running to stop the Democrats from tacking away from the center and to 'protect' the party from those threatening to tear it down and rebuild it with a more populist image. Trump ran as an outsider p…

Bloomberg is a Republican, a lot of people have just forgotten what a more centrist Republican looks like. He's also like Trump in his racism, sexism, authoritarianism, etc. Ask New Yorkers about him.

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Post by tsycho »

newshorts wrote: post #352

If Bloomberg get elected and successfully purchases the presidency, I’m moving my family out of the US. I will no long contribute to our collective GDP or pay taxes. I’ll vote with my feet if I can’t vote with my rights as an American citizen.

What if Trump wins?

Re: Bloomberg bankrolls a social-media army

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Post by huebomont »

anonAndOn wrote: post #186

What a fascinating choice between two New York billionaires. A populist carnival barker vs. a man who built his own personal tech/media empire. I'd bet dollars to donuts Mike's got a tech team in place right now that is running rings around the DNC's haphazard patronage party.

Weird definition of "choice."
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