The Race to Build the First Sustainable Supersonic Jet
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Re: The Race to Build the First Sustainable Supersonic Jet
#2Feels like a losing battle against physics, combined with it only being really valuable in a single direction.
Overnight flights from east coast to EU are late enough that they don't impact productive time, and largely get in early enough for a full day of work.
Making that flight shorter - as anyone who's done a DEN-NYC redeye will tell you - doesn't actually help productivity.
Sure, on the return flight, it would be great to shave a couple hours off, but on the way there, with the time changes required, faster doesn't so much help with productivity. Especially with inflight internet these days.
Re: The Race to Build the First Sustainable Supersonic Jet
#3Feels like a losing battle against physics, combined with it only being really valuable in a single direction. Overnight flights from east coast to EU are late enough that they don't impact productive time, and largely get in early enough for a full day of work. Making that flight shorter - as anyone who's done a DEN-NYC redeye will tell you - doesn't actually help productivity. Sure, on the return flight, it would b…
> they don't impact productive time
Even flying in first class I’m sure I’d get there much more refreshed for a short four hour flight than an eight hour one, improving my productivity when I get there.
And why are you only considering overnight flights?
Re: The Race to Build the First Sustainable Supersonic Jet
#4Feels like a losing battle against physics, combined with it only being really valuable in a single direction. Overnight flights from east coast to EU are late enough that they don't impact productive time, and largely get in early enough for a full day of work. Making that flight shorter - as anyone who's done a DEN-NYC redeye will tell you - doesn't actually help productivity. Sure, on the return flight, it would b…
Sounds like you only fly first class. Have you ever flown 10+ hours in economy and felt ready for work (or even vacation) stepping off the plane?
Re: The Race to Build the First Sustainable Supersonic Jet
#5I was surprised the article didn't mention Boom, which is targeting the business-class airliner tier. Their value proposition is different, and closer to Concorde: no plans for 'boomless' supercruise, but also vastly higher supersonic cruise at Mach 2.2. They haven't started constructing their airliner yet (named Overture) but XB-1, their supersonic demonstrator and testbed, is in fabrication right now.
Re: The Race to Build the First Sustainable Supersonic Jet
#6Feels like a losing battle against physics, combined with it only being really valuable in a single direction. Overnight flights from east coast to EU are late enough that they don't impact productive time, and largely get in early enough for a full day of work. Making that flight shorter - as anyone who's done a DEN-NYC redeye will tell you - doesn't actually help productivity. Sure, on the return flight, it would b…
> they don't impact productive time Even flying in first class I’m sure I’d get there much more refreshed for a short four hour flight than an eight hour one, improving my productivity when I get there. And why are you only considering overnight flights?
I think focusing on longer flights will have a bigger benefit. Most of the time in a short flight is already taken up by getting to, being processed through, and waiting in the airport.
I also think it is common to have most long haul flights 6hr+ overnight.
Re: The Race to Build the First Sustainable Supersonic Jet
#7Feels like a losing battle against physics, combined with it only being really valuable in a single direction. Overnight flights from east coast to EU are late enough that they don't impact productive time, and largely get in early enough for a full day of work. Making that flight shorter - as anyone who's done a DEN-NYC redeye will tell you - doesn't actually help productivity. Sure, on the return flight, it would b…
> they don't impact productive time Even flying in first class I’m sure I’d get there much more refreshed for a short four hour flight than an eight hour one, improving my productivity when I get there. And why are you only considering overnight flights?
Regarding Concorde and from a customer's business perspective, going west (from Paris or London to NYC) made sense as you'd pretty much land before you took off (in local time). So you'd gain time.
For instance you'd leave Paris at 10:30am and you'd land at JFK at 8:25am or so. But on the way back, you'd take-off from JFK at 8am to land at 5:45pm... To/From London would be 10:30am/09:25am and 8:30am/17:25pm.
Bottom line, going west is sweet as you get a full day ahead of you. But going east doesn't get you anything but going there faster.
That's why Concorde was often carrying more passengers on the way west than on the way back: people would choose to get a first class overnight flight...
That said, if they could solve the cost issue, I'd rather fly for less time, even if I still lost a day of productivity going east.
Re: The Race to Build the First Sustainable Supersonic Jet
#8Feels like a losing battle against physics, combined with it only being really valuable in a single direction. Overnight flights from east coast to EU are late enough that they don't impact productive time, and largely get in early enough for a full day of work. Making that flight shorter - as anyone who's done a DEN-NYC redeye will tell you - doesn't actually help productivity. Sure, on the return flight, it would b…
Sounds like you only fly first class. Have you ever flown 10+ hours in economy and felt ready for work (or even vacation) stepping off the plane?
This will be a private jet, and they are pretty expensive. Apparently flying in a Bombardier Learjet costs something like $7000/hour [1], while a first-class ticket is more like $1000/hour.
[1] https://www.aircharterserviceusa.com/about-us/news-features/...
Re: The Race to Build the First Sustainable Supersonic Jet
#9Feels like a losing battle against physics, combined with it only being really valuable in a single direction. Overnight flights from east coast to EU are late enough that they don't impact productive time, and largely get in early enough for a full day of work. Making that flight shorter - as anyone who's done a DEN-NYC redeye will tell you - doesn't actually help productivity. Sure, on the return flight, it would b…
Sounds like you only fly first class. Have you ever flown 10+ hours in economy and felt ready for work (or even vacation) stepping off the plane?
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Re: The Race to Build the First Sustainable Supersonic Jet
#10Feels like a losing battle against physics, combined with it only being really valuable in a single direction. Overnight flights from east coast to EU are late enough that they don't impact productive time, and largely get in early enough for a full day of work. Making that flight shorter - as anyone who's done a DEN-NYC redeye will tell you - doesn't actually help productivity. Sure, on the return flight, it would b…
If you shorten the JFK-LHR flight to around 3 hours, something along the lines of 6pm departure into 2am arrival becomes viable, after which you get a half-night of sleep in an actual bed before work the next day.