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Surprised to see such naive takes on HN. Wealthy people don’t “hoard wealth like a dragon”. It’s invested in companies that translate to products, services, and jobs.
Companies are assets and as such they are still part of his wealth. It is not like I said he sleeps on gold coins in a vault. No need to get literal.
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I believe people are not idiots and are capable of judging their own interest. I do not subscribe to the 'they are basically children, we have to protect them'. To the candidate I believe in I give my donation. For someone I believe, I will spread their message for free. Him? He has to pay.
> I believe people are not idiots and are capable of judging their own interest. He's buying up media and politicians. People can't decide from themselves when he's spending a billion dollars to shape the narrative. If Bloomberg gets elected the US is done. It's not longer anything resembling democracy and the only thing that will save us from the new order will be revolution.
Companies spend billions of dollars on advertising, but plenty of people decide for themselves.
It may be an unpopular opinion, but I am ok with Bloomberg spending some of his money. Granted, 300MM to him like approximately $20 to me, but still.. Do not misunderstand me. His attempt to simply buy an election is.. annoying, if not unseemly. That said, I am perfectly fine with him finally spending at least some of his vast fortune instead of hoarding it like a dragon. Hell, he wants to pay me $2500? I will pocket…
You mean investing it in his company?
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Surprised to see such naive takes on HN. Wealthy people don’t “hoard wealth like a dragon”. It’s invested in companies that translate to products, services, and jobs.
It's actually shocking and sad how widely held this belief is.
The naive people are the ones who swallow the line from billionaires.
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I think the vast majority of folks who voted for Trump felt that they received what they were expecting to receive. I think most who voted that way the first go around will likely vote for him again should they return to the polls.
And what, exactly, were they expecting to receive?
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- The wall
- Fight against sanctuary cities, including now support for a bill that would allow relatives of murdered US citizens who were victims of aliens protected by Sanctuary laws, to sue those sanctuary cities.
- Travel ban, which for me is a litmus test as to whether you are a "crazy leftist" by whether or not you actually think it's a "muslim ban."
- Stronger economy through less regulation
- Bring back jobs to US
- Rational trade deals that prioritize US, not sacrifice it. (China, USMCA, etc.)
- A general aversion to taking other first-world countries' shit, who simultaneously exploit us for money and protection, and say how horrible we are.
- Reversal of Iran deal
- Efforts to remove US from middle east
- Prison reform
- Drug price transparency
- "Drain the swamp" / exposure of the "deep state" / revelation that this concept is real and simple: the natural bias that occurs within government when there is a 90%/10% political imbalance. (Currently 90% democrat/10% republican.) This manifests as things like the Mueller report: based on a lie, started by hostile government actors, causes a shit-ton of political casualties who would not even be considered if they were on the other side, wastes everybody's time and money. And it is only possible for it to happen one way: against Republicans. This is transparent and obvious.
- 5 year foreign lobbying ban
- Repeal and replace Obamacare. (As an anecdote, my mom said that out of the whole 8 years of Obama as president, the only thing that really changed for her is that she paid more for insurance while receiving less, a direct result of Obamacare.)
- Support the vets / VA
- Space Force
- Supreme court justice
- Protection of religious expression in schools
- "Fuck you" to liberal elites [1]
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It's both non-substantive and also incorrect. The United States is both a constitutional republic and a representative democracy. Ignoring the democracy part is a favorite trope of people who oppose it.
No one who supports the electoral college is opposed to the nature of democratic voting such as is used by the House of Representatives. I believe it's a strength of the US that we have different voting methodologies for different roles. One for the House and a _different_ (yet also fair!) methodology for the President. While these reasons were partially born as a result of compromise - the compromise is rooted in so…
It may be an unpopular opinion, but I am ok with Bloomberg spending some of his money. Granted, 300MM to him like approximately $20 to me, but still.. Do not misunderstand me. His attempt to simply buy an election is.. annoying, if not unseemly. That said, I am perfectly fine with him finally spending at least some of his vast fortune instead of hoarding it like a dragon. Hell, he wants to pay me $2500? I will pocket…
I don't think it's going to work. Money may be a guaranteed way to get yourself in "the top tier" in polling but when it comes to voting, I don't think that pans out. Money is a factor but it's not the only factor. Ross Perot spent I don't know how many millions and never got more than 10% of the vote. Clinton outspent Trump in 2016. If people don't get excited for a candidate and connect with them its just not going…
Sure they benefit from spreading their message much wider, but it doesn’t mean people will vote for him.
If Bloomberg succeeds in buying the election, we will never have another president who isn’t a billionaire again. This is a far greater, long term threat to American democracy than anything posed by the Trump administration’s lawlessness.
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> Hell, he wants to pay me $2500? I will pocket that and then vote for hopefully less obnoxious candidate. What about the votes of the people you influenced in his direction? If just 2 other people turn to him as a result, your vote against him has been effectively negated. Perhaps the $2500 means more to you than the vote against Bloomberg? If so, that's fair. A lot of people could use that kind of money, and I don'…
I believe people are not idiots and are capable of judging their own interest. I do not subscribe to the 'they are basically children, we have to protect them'. To the candidate I believe in I give my donation. For someone I believe, I will spread their message for free. Him? He has to pay.
Have you met people?