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Bloomberg bankrolls a social-media army

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Re: Bloomberg bankrolls a social-media army

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I'm looking forward to the debate tonite, hopefully Bloomberg will get to show everyone what kind of candidate he really is. I still think his entire campaign is just a twisted way to get around campaign contribution limits and possibly a bulwark to keep the wacko socialist candidates from winning the nomination. Hopefully he proves me wrong and is a real candidate that will be able to stand toe to toe with President…

Improving society is "wacko"?

Re: Bloomberg bankrolls a social-media army

#42
Clearly these tactics are despicable...and they work. Bloomberg is just demonstrating that he's the only one who really learned from Trump how to win in the modern era. Trump, of course, had Russian trolls posting rather than these folks...but potato/potaato.

And he's right - he went from nothing to third place (in national polls) solely through (mostly internet) ad spend.

What I don't understand is why every candidate isn't taking a similar approach. These guys are showing it's not about events, likeability, policies, history, etc. It's just about mass manipulation enabled by the internet.

Re: Bloomberg bankrolls a social-media army

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This is a really good question and I'd like to see some fines dished out if they're not.

I wouldn’t. there’s no reason anyone should have to disclose if something is an ad.

Except, well, the FTC requirement that says literally that.

Re: Bloomberg bankrolls a social-media army

#44

Clearly these tactics are despicable...and they work. Bloomberg is just demonstrating that he's the only one who really learned from Trump how to win in the modern era. Trump, of course, had Russian trolls posting rather than these folks...but potato/potaato. And he's right - he went from nothing to third place (in national polls) solely through (mostly internet) ad spend. What I don't understand is why every candida…

Nobody else has that kind of money. He's spent, last I read, $250 million dollars _already_.

Re: Bloomberg bankrolls a social-media army

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I don't even.. wow.. Talk about buying the election. Are anyone going to be fooled by this? Edit: does facebook and twitter require that you disclose any payments you get for posting?

Was Hillary Clinton "buying the election" when she outspent Donald Trump roughly 2:1?

Or is it only "buying the election" when it's a candidate you dislike?

My vote isn't for sale and I assume that's true for other Americans. If I thought otherwise, I'd have a hard time convincing myself that democracies can work.

Re: Bloomberg bankrolls a social-media army

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If he was Russian, he wouldn't be running for president.

True enough they already have their guy in the Whitehouse!

One of Bloomberg's grandparents was Russian and one was Belarusian... I mean, Russian Jews != Soviets or Putin Russians but it's interesting.

Re: Bloomberg bankrolls a social-media army

#47

If Bloomberg succeeds in buying the election, we will never have another president who isn’t a billionaire again. This is a far greater, long term threat to American democracy than anything posed by the Trump administration’s lawlessness.

I agree with the former, but not the latter.

Re: Bloomberg bankrolls a social-media army

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This is a really good question and I'd like to see some fines dished out if they're not.

I wouldn’t. there’s no reason anyone should have to disclose if something is an ad.

FTC, for a start. Political ads have more scrutiny as well, though I don't know the details.

https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/2019/11/ftc-r...

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Luckily, we're not a democracy!

While it's not very substantive, this observation is correct so while it may be valid to downvote, it isn't valid to flag. The US is not a democracy. It's a constitutional republic with an electoral college. The checks afforded by this system make it much harder than just manipulating a mob (which is another way to describe a democracy).

It's both non-substantive and also incorrect. The United States is both a constitutional republic and a representative democracy. Ignoring the democracy part is a favorite trope of people who oppose it.

Re: Bloomberg bankrolls a social-media army

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Clearly these tactics are despicable...and they work. Bloomberg is just demonstrating that he's the only one who really learned from Trump how to win in the modern era. Trump, of course, had Russian trolls posting rather than these folks...but potato/potaato. And he's right - he went from nothing to third place (in national polls) solely through (mostly internet) ad spend. What I don't understand is why every candida…

They don't have the money to do that, in part because Bloomberg and Steyer are buying up all the inventory and driving up prices in the marketplace.
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