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Ask HN: How do you handle toxic coworkers?

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Re: Ask HN: How do you handle toxic coworkers?

#11
Talk to other co-workers you trust about how you feel about the guy. If you find 3-4 people who feel like you feel, just arrange to go together to your manager, and ask that this person be fired (don’t settle for less). If you’re ready to quit over this, it doesn’t matter if the process backfires. But if the process doesn’t work, go to the boss of your boss and HR.

A toxic work environment is very detrimental to productivity so your hierarchy should take this very seriously.

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"tells people that decisions they've made "don't make sense" or are "weird"" Just thinking about this, this guy is so dumb that he cannot understand what others are saying. Think like that. One thing what I see is that people spill shit all over the place are just people who are being filling & drowned in shit. What is you see is just the after effect of shit drowning him. Why get excited by a "thumps up" & feel bad…

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Re: Ask HN: How do you handle toxic coworkers?

#13
Personally, it would take a lot of money for me to put up with that so I would approach it as if I had nothing to lose.

I'm not sure what kind of financial situation you're in so this might not be the best advice.

If you haven't already given management a chance to fix it themselves, then tell them to deal with it or you're gone. The cost for management to fix it is a lot cheaper than hiring a new person.

What do they really have to do? All it takes is them to tell the person to just stop it.

Re: Ask HN: How do you handle toxic coworkers?

#16
Ive been in this kind of situation and I regret not doing more to rectify it before quitting. I’d say 50% chance quitting is the only way to resolve this and 50% something can be done. But getting something done might require some finess, and understanding what your bosses care about and framing it in that regard. For example if they care about deadlines I’m sure you can argue this is slowing the team down. But nepotism and politics rule some places and it may be tough to get a change, as an ideal org would have spotted this and not allowed it to happen. But if you complain and other people do then something might happen.

Re: Ask HN: How do you handle toxic coworkers?

#17
Toxic people at work always exist as part of the overall environment. The environment tolerates them. Judge the environment. I'd be asking myself why I'm in that environment and what I hope to achieve. If you're feeling this way now, how will you feel in six months time? Will you still feel like tolerating rush hour traffic to get to that workplace? For how long?

Not all jobs can be swapped out easily. Your situation matters. You may have to stay in that environment for whatever reason. Know your reason and the boundaries thereof. Be clear to yourself. Decide on what would cause you to exit and when. Be explicit in your reasons and why. You might have to remind yourself every day.

Maybe this environment isn't toxic or the situation isn't so bad. Get legal counsel anyway in terms of a bullying case. You may not have an actual bully in play right now but preparation for such might help. Even if you don't go the legal route, keep a journal, notes etc. If the manager is turning a blind eye to the situation that definitely isn’t good either.

Re: Ask HN: How do you handle toxic coworkers?

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First, I’m sorry you’ve found yourself in this situation. The good news is that you are going to learn some new skills and grow from this challenge. I’d try to respond to PR comments/ talk or slack directly with the person and ask them to elaborate whenever they leave these negative ambiguous comments. You can even preface it with some humility - “I’m struggling to understand your point, could you restate this in ano…

You are just asking for it. q: “I’m struggling to understand your point, could you restate this in another way for me?” a: 'Your self declared lack of understanding coding standards and basic principles explains "quality" of code you keep submitting'

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Re: Ask HN: How do you handle toxic coworkers?

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First, I’m sorry you’ve found yourself in this situation. The good news is that you are going to learn some new skills and grow from this challenge. I’d try to respond to PR comments/ talk or slack directly with the person and ask them to elaborate whenever they leave these negative ambiguous comments. You can even preface it with some humility - “I’m struggling to understand your point, could you restate this in ano…

You are just asking for it. q: “I’m struggling to understand your point, could you restate this in another way for me?” a: 'Your self declared lack of understanding coding standards and basic principles explains "quality" of code you keep submitting'

"You misunderstand. I'm struggling to understand your point because you've made it in a way that focuses more on challenging my intelligence than making yours known."

and if he retorts that one in the same way just key his car or something.

Re: Ask HN: How do you handle toxic coworkers?

#20
Depends on his position relative to yours. If he's the reviewer, only leaving thumbs down on a PR means that he's not doing his job properly. If he isn't the reviewer, you can just ignore him. When he tells you that your decisions don't make sense - if it's something that you're discussing, consider that he might be right and get in more depth on why your decisions might not make sense, especially if this person is more senior. If it's just a peer who's throwing around negative one-liners - just ignore him. If it's someone that you're supposed to learn from / be managed by - then they suck at their job.

Either way, don't quit because of this. It's far from what I would label "toxic" and it's likely that you'll meet people like this in most places so you're better off learning how to handle them early on.

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