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Re: Request Node lib used by 48k modules is now deprecated

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Post by mekster »

BenoitEssiambre wrote: post #36
tal_berzniz wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the alternatives are better, then devs will choose those solutions and "request" will fade over time. It doesn't have Promise support, so new projects will likely not choose it. request is very simple and straightforward library that solves a very common issue. Deprecating it causes a lot of work for every project out there. Either using request directly or indirectly. I have a lot of respect for the maintainer, a…

>It doesn't have Promise support That's a feature. https://medium.com/@b.essiambre/continuation-passing-style-p...

What's wrong with, https://github.com/request/request-promise-native

Re: Request Node lib used by 48k modules is now deprecated

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Post by mofle »

lootsauce wrote: post #11

I am now looking for another library that is as expressive with http streaming. I have enjoyed using request for complex things things like piping file downloads while rewriting headers, adding cookies, without buffering the entire response in memory.

“got” has support for streaming. We have a migration guide for “request” users: https://github.com/sindresorhus/got/blob/master/documentatio...

Re: Request Node lib used by 48k modules is now deprecated

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Post by thrtythreeforty »

smichel17 wrote: post #108
loeg wrote: post #90

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I don't think anyone really uses mp3 for audio compression anymore, though. There's FLAC, mp4 (AAC), and free Vorbis (which claims to be competitive with both); and DVDs and whatnot are still using AC3, EAC3, and various other Dolby Digital audio formats. Given that landscape, I don't know why you'd pick mp3.

I keep a library of music, ripped from cds I own. My master copy is FLAC, but I use mp3 for on-the-go copies because it is not patent encumbered and it is supported everywhere . If you have a suggestion for an encoding+container that is will work out of the box both natively and in every major browser, across every major OS (Windows MacOS, Android, iOS and GNU/Linux, specifically distros like Fedora or Trisquel that…

Does Ogg Vorbis play on iOS? In my experience it has pretty good support across most other platforms. You do have to install Web Media Extensions on Windows, but that's little different from having to install libvorbis on Linux.

Re: Request Node lib used by 48k modules is now deprecated

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Post by colejohnson66 »

thrtythreeforty wrote: post #124
smichel17 wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I keep a library of music, ripped from cds I own. My master copy is FLAC, but I use mp3 for on-the-go copies because it is not patent encumbered and it is supported everywhere . If you have a suggestion for an encoding+container that is will work out of the box both natively and in every major browser, across every major OS (Windows MacOS, Android, iOS and GNU/Linux, specifically distros like Fedora or Trisquel that…

Does Ogg Vorbis play on iOS? In my experience it has pretty good support across most other platforms. You do have to install Web Media Extensions on Windows, but that's little different from having to install libvorbis on Linux.

No, it doesn’t... on a stock build. Get the VLC app though, and then you can play (through the app, of course).

Re: Request Node lib used by 48k modules is now deprecated

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Post by craftoman »

UnFleshedOne wrote: post #118
craftoman wrote: post #113

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You know how many packages out there are better than request? Now compare all the work those great developers did, gave their souls for what? 50 stars at GitHub? Cmon, let's face the real problem here which is the balance between good code versus popular code. I'm speaking behalf of every great developer out there that spends hundreds of time and his project got faded inconspicuously. I have seen hardcore projects th…

That's just Power Law. Like it or not, I don't think there is a workaround.

Like judging a book by it's cover or the number of sales. No one said programmers are geniuses, they're just masters of some tools that forge the digital era, nothing more nothing less.

Re: Request Node lib used by 48k modules is now deprecated

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Post by svat »

neurobashing wrote: post #49
dpedu wrote: post #16

> request will stop accepting new features. > request will stop considering breaking changes. > The committers that are still active will try to merge fixes in a timely fashion Sounds to me like the library is "done".

Hardly a hot take but a lot of people seem to think that if code isn't actively being worked it, you can't use it, as if there can never be a point where fewer and fewer bugs are reported and fewer and fewer features are requested. when's the last time Knuth wrote a check for TAOCP? Is it "dead"?

> when's the last time Knuth wrote a check for TAOCP?

Got one in the mail yesterday (check was written Feb 10). In fact you can figure out how many checks were written in the last month, roughly: compare https://web.archive.org/web/20200110074014/https://cs.stanfo... with https://web.archive.org/web/20200219035903/https://cs.stanfo... I imagine most of these checks (definitely all $7 of mine) were from finding bugs in pre-fascicles, i.e. bleeding-edge drafts he's been putting up online. (See near the bottom of https://cs.stanford.edu/~knuth/news.html)

On the other hand, while you mention Knuth and "done", TeX and METAFONT are better examples. He declared them "done" in 1990 (https://tug.org/TUGboat/Articles/tb11-4/tb30knut.pdf), but still does bug fixes:

> I still take full responsibility for the master sources of TeX, METAFONT, and Computer Modern. Therefore I periodically take a few days off from my current projects and look at all of the accumulated bug reports. This happened most recently in 1992, 1993, 1995, 1998, 2002, 2007, and 2013; following this pattern, I intend to check on purported bugs again in the years 2020, 2028, 2037, etc. The intervals between such maintenance periods are increasing, because the systems have been converging to an error-free state.

(The latest round, in 2013, did surface one bug: the debug string representation of an "empty" control sequence was missing a space.)

Re: Request Node lib used by 48k modules is now deprecated

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Post by gaxun »

svat wrote: post #127
neurobashing wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hardly a hot take but a lot of people seem to think that if code isn't actively being worked it, you can't use it, as if there can never be a point where fewer and fewer bugs are reported and fewer and fewer features are requested. when's the last time Knuth wrote a check for TAOCP? Is it "dead"?

> when's the last time Knuth wrote a check for TAOCP? Got one in the mail yesterday (check was written Feb 10). In fact you can figure out how many checks were written in the last month, roughly: compare https://web.archive.org/web/20200110074014/https://cs.stanfo... with https://web.archive.org/web/20200219035903/https://cs.stanfo... I imagine most of these checks (definitely all $7 of mine) were from finding bugs i…

Nice to see multiple of us are on here.

> I imagine most of these checks (definitely all $7 of mine)

The 0x$2.00 check I got from 10 Feb 2020 was for one typographical item in Volume 4A and one pedagogical improvement in Volume 1, Fascicle 1. So it is certainly possible to still get checks for material that is already published.

Since it is now 2020, anyone with bug reports from the typography stuff should send them in soon, wouldn't want to miss the deadline.

Re: Request Node lib used by 48k modules is now deprecated

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Post by EGreg »

SahAssar wrote: post #109
EGreg wrote: post #41

Ok, I have been known to have strong opinions on HN, and each one is open to being changed and is rooted in extensive personal experience. I have said that comments are a code smell. I have written extensively in favor of decentralization and even formed two companies to promote it in increasingly sophisticated ways (qbix.com and intercoin.org) So I’m gonna say something that may get me downvoted... Package Managers…

I agree with a lot of the ideas behind what you say, but what is your solution? That we should use less dependencies? Sure. That we should review changes in our dependencies? Sure. But If I were to take a nodejs app and move it from ubuntu version X to ubuntu version Y, node version Z to node version A, and update npm dependencies the code review itself would take me a year. Is your point that we should only do this…

My solution is to have a specific job for independent people to sign off on all changes and you can sorta trust them before you pull. As opposed to just the developer. And everyone should have a reputation.

Re: Request Node lib used by 48k modules is now deprecated

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Post by svat »

gaxun wrote: post #128
svat wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> when's the last time Knuth wrote a check for TAOCP? Got one in the mail yesterday (check was written Feb 10). In fact you can figure out how many checks were written in the last month, roughly: compare https://web.archive.org/web/20200110074014/https://cs.stanfo... with https://web.archive.org/web/20200219035903/https://cs.stanfo... I imagine most of these checks (definitely all $7 of mine) were from finding bugs i…

Nice to see multiple of us are on here. > I imagine most of these checks (definitely all $7 of mine) The 0x$2.00 check I got from 10 Feb 2020 was for one typographical item in Volume 4A and one pedagogical improvement in Volume 1, Fascicle 1. So it is certainly possible to still get checks for material that is already published. Since it is now 2020, anyone with bug reports from the typography stuff should send them…

That's interesting, can you go into more detail on those two -- what was the pedagogical improvement, and the typographical item? Just curious...
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