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Re: Secret’s founder returns with anti-loneliness app Ikaria

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> “I don’t feel good about that. That sucks,” Chrys Bader-Wechseler reflects when asked about the bullying that went down on the anonymous app Secret he co-founded in 2013. After $35 million raised, 15 million users and a spectacular flame out two years later, the startup was dead. “Since I left Secret I feel alive and aligned with my values and my purpose again.”

I wonder what his values and purpose are.

Re: Secret’s founder returns with anti-loneliness app Ikaria

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Incredibly vague statements parroting known talking points with 0 substance to show for it.

I hate to be cynical but all this `tech to fix the social problems created by tech` really brings out the cynic in me.

Realistically I know that we do need new solutions but the solution to a drinking problem isn't to deliver better, more mindful alcohol.

Edit: To the comments below, I am not asserting that tech has actually created an entire new set of problems out of nothing, just that that is the narrative on display here and in other places. This is part of why it makes me so incredibly cynical.

Re: Secret’s founder returns with anti-loneliness app Ikaria

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> “I don’t feel good about that. That sucks,” Chrys Bader-Wechseler reflects when asked about the bullying that went down on the anonymous app Secret he co-founded in 2013. After $35 million raised, 15 million users and a spectacular flame out two years later, the startup was dead. “Since I left Secret I feel alive and aligned with my values and my purpose again.” I wonder what his values and purpose are.

> I wonder what his values and purpose are.

Hopefully not using investor $$ to buy himself a ferrari, like his co-founder! https://nextshark.com/david-byttow-secret-founder-sells-priz...

Re: Secret’s founder returns with anti-loneliness app Ikaria

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> “I don’t feel good about that. That sucks,” Chrys Bader-Wechseler reflects when asked about the bullying that went down on the anonymous app Secret he co-founded in 2013. After $35 million raised, 15 million users and a spectacular flame out two years later, the startup was dead. “Since I left Secret I feel alive and aligned with my values and my purpose again.” I wonder what his values and purpose are.

> I wonder what his values and purpose are. Hopefully not using investor $$ to buy himself a ferrari, like his co-founder! https://nextshark.com/david-byttow-secret-founder-sells-priz...

what the hell is the point of this statement? he didn't do that.

Re: Secret’s founder returns with anti-loneliness app Ikaria

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Incredibly vague statements parroting known talking points with 0 substance to show for it. I hate to be cynical but all this `tech to fix the social problems created by tech` really brings out the cynic in me. Realistically I know that we do need new solutions but the solution to a drinking problem isn't to deliver better, more mindful alcohol. Edit: To the comments below, I am not asserting that tech has actually c…

I agree with your evaluation of the article, but I'm tired of this "social problems created by tech" narrative. I grew up in the world before the internet. It was NOT better.

Re: Secret’s founder returns with anti-loneliness app Ikaria

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Incredibly vague statements parroting known talking points with 0 substance to show for it. I hate to be cynical but all this `tech to fix the social problems created by tech` really brings out the cynic in me. Realistically I know that we do need new solutions but the solution to a drinking problem isn't to deliver better, more mindful alcohol. Edit: To the comments below, I am not asserting that tech has actually c…

Your comment (along with statements in the article) presumes that tech is the root cause of these problems but in my opinion this assumption is faulty.

Concurrent to the rise in loneliness, depression, anxiety etc. we have experienced a rise in geographical mobility, single parent households, and the divorce rate.

Which means that for many, the traditional social networks people relied on for support during hard times--family and lifelong friends--are more distant, geographically and emotionally, than ever before.

People may turn to social media as a poor substitute just as alcoholics confronted by trauma turn to drinking, but this doesn't mean that booze or tech are the root cause. I think it's absolutely fair to compare social media to say booze or weed as something that's fine in moderation, but can easily turn into an escape/coping mechanism which has its own problems.

Maybe tech can help, maybe not. But what troubles me is that we may be scapegoating tech because the real root causes of our growing mental illness epidemic are too difficult to face.

As far as I know there has been no society in history prior to ours where families and lifelong, geographically proximate friends were not the central part of people's lives. Thus we have no proof in the historical record that such a society can even last more than a few generations.

Re: Secret’s founder returns with anti-loneliness app Ikaria

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Incredibly vague statements parroting known talking points with 0 substance to show for it. I hate to be cynical but all this `tech to fix the social problems created by tech` really brings out the cynic in me. Realistically I know that we do need new solutions but the solution to a drinking problem isn't to deliver better, more mindful alcohol. Edit: To the comments below, I am not asserting that tech has actually c…

I agree with your evaluation of the article, but I'm tired of this "social problems created by tech" narrative. I grew up in the world before the internet. It was NOT better.

I actually think it was worse before, just like in many areas. The bullying and fighting then was physical and real.

Everything keeps getting better over time (measured in say decades) but the one constant we will always have is complaining.

Yes there are always real problems and new ones are also created, but on the whole we are doing better in many matters.

Re: Secret’s founder returns with anti-loneliness app Ikaria

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Incredibly vague statements parroting known talking points with 0 substance to show for it. I hate to be cynical but all this `tech to fix the social problems created by tech` really brings out the cynic in me. Realistically I know that we do need new solutions but the solution to a drinking problem isn't to deliver better, more mindful alcohol. Edit: To the comments below, I am not asserting that tech has actually c…

I don't think the analogy is apt. People need ways to socialize and many are isolated by, among other things, overabundance of individual or shallow entertainment, overabundance of entertainment vs. learning and challenging activities, and excessive demands of work. An app simply trying to connect people could bring less of the former.

The problem isn't apps (or 'tech') per se, it's more of a systemic problem. The solutions will almost definitely involve a mix or cultural evolution, technology, and the impact of various groups and organizations.

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