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Re: Sherbet: An Ergonomic Gaming Keypad

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Post by Quequau »

reportgunner wrote: post #19
melling wrote: post #2

Saw this alternate entry device announced at CES: https://www.charachorder.com/ SelfieType, using a camera to watch your fingers, looks even more futuristic: https://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-selfie-type-demo-vi...

I would prefer to have camera read my lips rather than read my fingers as I type on nothing.

As I already talk to myself a lot, I'm way closer to this sort of strategy working than I would have thought before you mentioned it. Though I don't enunciate at all when I talk to myself, so whatever was doing the detecting would need to work on subvocalization.

It reminds me of a talk someone gave about this ad-hoc verbal shorthand someone invented so that they could use speech-to-text to code. The talk sounded really funny but the process did seem fairly productive.

Re: Sherbet: An Ergonomic Gaming Keypad

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Post by golergka »

reportgunner wrote: post #19
melling wrote: post #2

Saw this alternate entry device announced at CES: https://www.charachorder.com/ SelfieType, using a camera to watch your fingers, looks even more futuristic: https://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-selfie-type-demo-vi...

I would prefer to have camera read my lips rather than read my fingers as I type on nothing.

Spelling something like AbstractFactory>> must be fun. (But not as fun as it would be if I had more experience with Perl).

Re: Sherbet: An Ergonomic Gaming Keypad

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Post by Oreb »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #17
setr wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like the feedback of smartphones? Especially those prior to the very recent vibrate on touch People want to type, and they want to do it quickly. Tactile feedback is nice... but most people do not engage in typing for the fun of it. The primary concerns for this are input reliability, ease & speed of setup, and learning curve. You aren't using such a thing to replace your desktop keyboard. You're using it to replace…

> most people do not engage in typing for the fun of it. The primary concerns for this are input reliability, ease & speed of setup, and learning curve. Swipe-style input on phones seems more popular than keypresses, despite having lower input reliability, more difficult setup, and an inability to enter certain words. It's faster than typing, though, as long as the word you want to enter is part of the swipe input me…

Are you sure swipe-style is more popular? My anecdotal experience is that hardly anyone even knows swipe typing is possible until I show them. I mostly interact with people aged between 25 and 50. Perhaps swipe typing is more common among younger users?

Re: Sherbet: An Ergonomic Gaming Keypad

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Post by Symbiote »

dasKrokodil wrote: post #22

Never mind gaming – with some slight modifications (like some thumb buttons), two of these mirrored could make a very nice work keyboard, with the joysticks replacing the mouse + two scroll wheels.

The design is based upon keyboard like that.

See the Dactyl and Dactyl Manuform.

Adding the joysticks shouldn't be as difficult as designing the whole thing from scratch.

https://github.com/adereth/dactyl-keyboard

https://github.com/abstracthat/dactyl-manuform

Re: Sherbet: An Ergonomic Gaming Keypad

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Post by thaumasiotes »

Oreb wrote: post #25
thaumasiotes wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> most people do not engage in typing for the fun of it. The primary concerns for this are input reliability, ease & speed of setup, and learning curve. Swipe-style input on phones seems more popular than keypresses, despite having lower input reliability, more difficult setup, and an inability to enter certain words. It's faster than typing, though, as long as the word you want to enter is part of the swipe input me…

Are you sure swipe-style is more popular? My anecdotal experience is that hardly anyone even knows swipe typing is possible until I show them. I mostly interact with people aged between 25 and 50. Perhaps swipe typing is more common among younger users?

After you show them, what do they end up using?

Re: Sherbet: An Ergonomic Gaming Keypad

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Post by SuperPaintMan »

jagger27 wrote: post #13

Nice use of Kailh's Choc switches. I wish there were other keycap options out there for them though. It's such a shame that injection moulding is so expensive to get off the ground.

Weirdly enough, there's a groupbuy closing out soon for PBT Choc keycaps. It's taken forever but it's getting there. [0]

[0] https://www.gboards.ca/product/mbk-group-buy

Re: Sherbet: An Ergonomic Gaming Keypad

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Post by diffeomorphism »

russellbeattie wrote: post #23

Heh. Not one picture of his hand actually using this thing. "Oh, someone might want to see if it works?" Gotta love that pure technical mindset.

The picture would mostly be a hand obscuring anything under it. I am not sure how that would be useful?

Re: Sherbet: An Ergonomic Gaming Keypad

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Post by modeless »

melling wrote: post #2

Saw this alternate entry device announced at CES: https://www.charachorder.com/ SelfieType, using a camera to watch your fingers, looks even more futuristic: https://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-selfie-type-demo-vi...

Charachorder looks cool, though very difficult to learn. I wish someone would make a similar device using strain gauge joysticks (AKA Thinkpad TrackPoint) instead of moving physical switches. You could type with nearly zero finger movement.
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