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How to Take Smart Notes
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#102Why is the first branch off 1 1/1 rather than 1a?
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#103Note-taking seems to have gained popularity on HackerNews over the past few weeks (or my attention has been biased towards these submissions, at least). I've long been interested in the domain of "personal knowledge engineering" and this clearly seems a common thread within our community. As a brief overview of the "SOTA:" * Emacs and Vim users skew towards Org-mode or Vim wiki. * Roam Research is sort of a recent we…
I use a small subset of Org Mode myself. But I think people focus too much on tools vs method. Plain text plus ripgrep can work great. Lühmann used pen and paper, and he built some hugely successful Zettelkastens. Many users at Zettelkasten.de write super simple notes in Markdown. Actually, I'd never move away from plain text or a plain text format like Org, Markdown or similar as it is really future proof. Will Roam…
> Lühmann used pen and paper
Luhmann.
And he collected and refinend his knowledgebase for nearly 40 decades, because this was actually his job and he had nothing better at hand. Most people today use knoweldebases just a tool on the side and they have computers now. Naturally they strive for faster workload and higher quality. Something you can't get with pen&paper.
> Will Roam or Evernote be around and well maintained in 20 years?
Probably not, maybe they are. But they are not good competition there. Evernote is mostly tooling and servers, just a bit interface and mostly just fancy richtext. The advantage over markdown is quite thin these days. Roam might be a bit better, bit I think it's just a fancy wiki with autolinking, so not really good either.
The actual competition are apps like notion and airtable and Office Suits. Interfaces and tooling which goes above and beyond simple test with fancy colors. Markdown is not there, probably never will be. Orgmode to some parts goes there, but has other problems.
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#104I feel the entire article is very confusing. Maybe I would need to have read the book to understand the article. I went in with the expectation of informative guidlines to effective notetaking, and left feeling i hade read a very lengthy way of saying taking notes is important. Coupled with a description of a complex way to archive notes(slip box), with no explanation of how to use the structure (your box).
That's no coincidence. The book on which this article is based on is _exactly_ the same (I read it). There are maybe a couple of ideas in the entire 200 pages book and it just runs in circles.
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#105I'm sold on the zettelkasten method. I've tried zim, cherrynotes, trilium... I've found two things that matter most for me: 1/ you need an editor where typing latency is low. Below 10ms. Otherwise you will get in a bad mood and make more mistakes. Electron apps need not apply 2/ creating, linking, and finding notes must be fast On top of that, it must be future proof. I've found the ideal solution in howl (howl.io).…
nvALT fits the bill, as does "Archiver"
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#107In the realm of note taking and personal knowledge management apps, I've been shopping around recently. Notion is very popular, and Roam Research [0] has been the popular scrappy upstart that people have been looking at, but I've been unhappy with these since neither has an API (and neither are open source.) I would _strongly_ urge HN readers to take a look at Tiddlywiki [1]. It's popped up on Hacker News before, and…
I've looked into it a few times now, each time I get a little closer to actually using it. Currently I've moved from the "What? I have to install a browser plugin to save changes?" phase to "I guess I'm going to have to sit down one weekend and find a hosting setup I like for this tool"
I'm definitely interested in tiddlywiki, but there's so many options it's a little overwhelming on first glance. What does your implementation look like?
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#108In the realm of note taking and personal knowledge management apps, I've been shopping around recently. Notion is very popular, and Roam Research [0] has been the popular scrappy upstart that people have been looking at, but I've been unhappy with these since neither has an API (and neither are open source.) I would _strongly_ urge HN readers to take a look at Tiddlywiki [1]. It's popped up on Hacker News before, and…
I've looked into it a few times now, each time I get a little closer to actually using it. Currently I've moved from the "What? I have to install a browser plugin to save changes?" phase to "I guess I'm going to have to sit down one weekend and find a hosting setup I like for this tool" I'm definitely interested in tiddlywiki, but there's so many options it's a little overwhelming on first glance. What does your impl…
Actually, I started out by just using the simplest saving method possible, which is downloading a new version of the HTML file on every save. It seems clunky but isn't that difficult to do.
I branched out to using the Tiddloid Lite [0] Android client, (Tiddloid and Tiddloid Lite are both free and open source, the Lite version just has a different feature set,) and I just uploaded my previous wiki into Google Drive and the app just worked... saving became completely automatic and it syncs to Drive without a hitch.
I'm looking into standing up a TiddlyServer [1] soon for my upcoming project, and I'm planning on eventually doing some modifications to do data storage in a database instead of on disk.
One thing's for sure: it's got a great gradual way to "get into" using it... it just isn't great at communicating those options in a way that isn't overwhelming.
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#109Interesting the first few principles are not about note-taking, but writing in general. If you believe in the power of the written word to drive clarity (e.g. as in Amazon-style 6-page narratives), these principles are gold: Principle #1: Writing is not the outcome of thinking; it is the medium in which thinking takes place Principle #2: Do your work as if writing is the only thing that matters Principle #5: Standard…
Principle #1 is too extreme. While I confirm that writing is a powerful medium for thinking, anybody writer with a shower to take or a hike to walk will tell you that thinking takes place in many ways. Parts like "If you want to learn and remember something long-term, you have to write it down" depends so much of context. Again, writing down does help me to commit things in memory, but for some information, audio is…
I feel a tension that I'll lose an idea unless I write it down. After it is written down, I'm able to work with it in a relxaed manner.
I think recording it with audio might be ok too, because you won't lose the idea. But the next step after that is to work with it, and audio doesn't easily give you immediate playback.
With writing there's sort of a feedback loop where you look at what you wrote and turn it over and figure out what's wrong with it and rewrite it or expound on it.
That said, it's your call on "lists of 10 things" because there are some trite internet ones, and some 10-commandment ones.
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#110I replied about this project before but surprised it hasn't reached more mainstream awareness. Piggydb former and now Cotoami [1]
[1]: https://piggydb.net/2019/03/06/why-its-harder-to-discover-va...