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Re: Mac People: Safari or Firefox 3?

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Safari to surf, Firefox to develop because of Firebug. So far though, I am very unimpressed with the interface choices they made with Firefox.

Webkit nightlies have an enhanced Web Inspector that's nearly as good as Firebug.

For me, it is far behind Firebug. I really miss keyboard shortcuts (at least for inspecting XHRs, please) and layout HTML/CSS inspection (not just highlighting elements while browsing tree).

Re: Mac People: Safari or Firefox 3?

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Firefox 3- it's more stable, Del.icio.us integration is better on it, the awesome bar is awesome, and Greasemonkey works with it.

A lot of Greasemonkey plugins are pretty useless, but GoogleAutoPager is fantastic. It makes it so that Google searches are on an infinite page, as you scroll down the plugin gets the next page of results and slots them in so you never have to click next page

http://lifehacker.com/software/google/download-of-the-day-go...

Also, FF3 has Firebug. Game, set, and match.

Re: Mac People: Safari or Firefox 3?

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Camino

Camino has to be one of the worst browsers I have ever used. I don't know what they are up to. In my mind, Camino should simply be Firefox with Webkit replacing the gecko engine... but it's not even on par with Firefox. One thing I hate about Mac in general is their hate for navigating solely with the keyboard. A lot of third-party apps do a good job letting you navigate using your kb only (such as cmd+1, cmd+2... to…

Why is it one of the worst? Why should it “be Firefox with Webkit”?

Who are these mysterious “they”?

In Camino, I use the keyboard to navigate, and my third mouse button opens links in new tabs, with no problems.

Re: Mac People: Safari or Firefox 3?

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Command + F then start typing what you're looking for on the page. Command + G will proceed to the next instance of your search phrase on the page.

Unless I'm mistaken, Safari can't do this: There's the "logout" link on this page, I just start typing l-o-g..., and once it gets highlighted, I can hit return and it'll click the link for me. Or if I need to go to the next word, I can still hit command+G. I don't have to invoke Find either, I can just start typing.

Ahah I see what you mean. It never occurred to me to do that, but it's a cool trick. Firefox does have the edge on Safari in terms of features.

I guess the equivalent in Safari would be to cmd+f, type your word or phrase, press escape, then press enter. A couple extra steps but it does the trick.

Re: Mac People: Safari or Firefox 3?

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Safari seems buggy to me. For example, go to Google Docs, open a document and tell me what key combination jumps to the beginning/end of the line. (The answer seems to be none.) Same for Firefox. Opera is the only browser where this simple "feature" works. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Re: Mac People: Safari or Firefox 3?

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Safari is a resource suck? I always thought it was more efficient than FF.

It's fine on its own, but any time a site is using Flash or, heaven forbid, an applet, it would jump right to the head of the line, even with 70 or 80 tabs open in FF2.

Why would you have 70-80 tabs open in anything? When I have a lot of tabs open, I feel dirty and cluttered.

Re: Mac People: Safari or Firefox 3?

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If you like your keyboard shortcuts that (mostly) work across all FF installations across all platforms, go with FF. If you're a Mac-only person, stick with Safari if you already know it well.

Also, FF has extensions which although there are good alternatives on Safari, I sincerely doubt there are as many good quality ones for Safari as for FF.

Re: Mac People: Safari or Firefox 3?

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Webkit nightlies have an enhanced Web Inspector that's nearly as good as Firebug.

For me, it is far behind Firebug. I really miss keyboard shortcuts (at least for inspecting XHRs, please) and layout HTML/CSS inspection (not just highlighting elements while browsing tree).

It's certainly not there yet, but the Web Inspector in recent nightlies is a lot closer to Firebug than the one in Safari 3.1. That, and the advances the WebKit team are making elsewhere, gives me a lot of confidence that it's only a matter of time before Safari has a built-in web development tool and JavaScript debugger that matches or improves on Firebug in every area.

Re: Mac People: Safari or Firefox 3?

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The main reason I stick with FF is for Firebug and the Del.icio.us plugins.

I find that having the 'Add to del.icio.us' bookmarklet in my bookmarks bar and then just hitting Cmd+1 whenever I want to bookmark something works pretty well.

I tend to hide the bookmarks bar because the way I use it, it just takes up unnecessary screen space, but the procedure above doesn't require it.

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