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Re: An investigation of the Pentagon's UFO program

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Post by lonelappde »

retiredalien wrote: post #3

The author of this article is a very impressive and credible person, but there’s little new covered here. It’s kind of circular logic confirming things already revealed. The individuals referenced are not impartial and are biased by a quest for exotic technology research going back decades. They’ve used their affiliation with the Intelligence Community to enchant investors, all of whom have lost money. The most compe…

> The most compelling revelation is that the Director of the DoD SAP Central Office reportedly told Congress that these aircraft are not US black projects.

This part makes no sense. Directors of secret projects are required to lie to Congress when asked.

Remember TIA? google.com/search?q=least+untruthful+answer

Re: An investigation of the Pentagon's UFO program

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Post by mfer »

When someone says UFO many people immediately think aliens. The military often means something different. For example, a new Chinese aircraft they can't identify is a UFO.

In this article the word "alien" only shows up twice and it's someones opinion.

It's easy to have miscommunication on this topic.

Re: An investigation of the Pentagon's UFO program

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Post by retiredalien »

dvh wrote: post #6

Here's my theory about the recent influx of UFO footages coming from high places. US military was working on advanced drones. Nothing fancy, think current best tech, add 15 years and billion in r&d, that kind of stuff. Then when it was ready for test they flew it secretly before their own pilots and waited for reports. And waited. And waited some more. Silence. They disabled stealth, added flashlights, nothing. Milit…

This is a great theory and I’ve shared it with a few people in the past (since you posted it before).

But it ignores the last 40-years and beyond. For example, the people mentioned in the article are linked to debunked CIA research, and there were specific events that happened at CIA in the 1980s in regards to the USAF that make this topic infinitely more complex.

Re: An investigation of the Pentagon's UFO program

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Post by retiredalien »

tgflynn wrote: post #12
retiredalien wrote: post #3

The author of this article is a very impressive and credible person, but there’s little new covered here. It’s kind of circular logic confirming things already revealed. The individuals referenced are not impartial and are biased by a quest for exotic technology research going back decades. They’ve used their affiliation with the Intelligence Community to enchant investors, all of whom have lost money. The most compe…

> It was KG who first pitched Robert Bigelow on building a pseudoscientific device to communicate with Bigelow’s dead son. Who is KG ? - Kit Green ? Do you have a source for this statement ?

Yes Kit. I don’t have a source to share. It occurred at Col. John Alexander’s home though, so one could potentially ask him.

Re: An investigation of the Pentagon's UFO program

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Post by canuk83 »

retiredalien wrote: post #24
tgflynn wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It was KG who first pitched Robert Bigelow on building a pseudoscientific device to communicate with Bigelow’s dead son. Who is KG ? - Kit Green ? Do you have a source for this statement ?

Yes Kit. I don’t have a source to share. It occurred at Col. John Alexander’s home though, so one could potentially ask him.

Can you please share what you mean regarding the link between consciousness and kindness? Was that just offhand romantic musing or is it a reflection of something you've learned? I'd be grateful to understand more about what you mean by that.

Re: An investigation of the Pentagon's UFO program

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Post by cairo_x »

What's the deal with Skinwalker ranch? Why are they interested in it? Everything is so vague and x-filesy when people mention the ranch. Very woo woo without any actual details about what people have encountered there. What is the specific link between the ranch and UFOs?

Re: An investigation of the Pentagon's UFO program

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Post by 34679 »

dvh wrote: post #6

Here's my theory about the recent influx of UFO footages coming from high places. US military was working on advanced drones. Nothing fancy, think current best tech, add 15 years and billion in r&d, that kind of stuff. Then when it was ready for test they flew it secretly before their own pilots and waited for reports. And waited. And waited some more. Silence. They disabled stealth, added flashlights, nothing. Milit…

Wouldn't it be a lot easier to just pass orders down through the ranks to report all sightings, however odd they may seem?

"Hey, we think the Chinese or Russians may have something new. It's imperative that all unidentifiable flying craft are reported."

My personal theory is that the US knows exactly what these objects are because they built them. I don't believe the US military would've ever commented if they weren't fully aware of the nature of these objects. From a military strategy point of view, that's equivalent to broadcasting a weakness.

Instead, I believe the US military is broadcasting a strength. A sort of disclosure of capability without any real disclosure. The release of these videos, and the accompanying comments from military personnel, in my opinion, is a warning to other nations.

Re: An investigation of the Pentagon's UFO program

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Post by emiliobumachar »

34679 wrote: post #27
dvh wrote: post #6

Here's my theory about the recent influx of UFO footages coming from high places. US military was working on advanced drones. Nothing fancy, think current best tech, add 15 years and billion in r&d, that kind of stuff. Then when it was ready for test they flew it secretly before their own pilots and waited for reports. And waited. And waited some more. Silence. They disabled stealth, added flashlights, nothing. Milit…

Wouldn't it be a lot easier to just pass orders down through the ranks to report all sightings, however odd they may seem? "Hey, we think the Chinese or Russians may have something new. It's imperative that all unidentifiable flying craft are reported." My personal theory is that the US knows exactly what these objects are because they built them. I don't believe the US military would've ever commented if they weren'…

A lot easier, may not work. "On one hand, I've been ordered to report UFOs. On the other hand, I don't want to be laughed at, do a lengthy psych evaluation, and never fly again. "

Best to do both.

Re: An investigation of the Pentagon's UFO program

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Post by monkeydreams »

rafaelvasco wrote: post #18

I personally have no reason to negate the existence of aliens or UFOs. I've read a lot of testimonies about encounters and everything, and they mostly add up with one another. The problem is that this theme is such that there's lots of passionate people out there, and as such, there's lots of fabricated stuff too. One must be diligent when researching about this stuff, but the evidence is really strong;

> One must be diligent when researching about this stuff, but the evidence is really strong

Where skeptics deviate from this reasoning is that, while there is hard evidence (i.e. the incidence of radiation burns, radar artifacts, etc) of something happening, the most likely explanation is terrestrial rather than interstellar.

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