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Re: Show HN: A stream of AI-generated art

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Post by drongoking »

craftinator wrote: post #60
iakh wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not trying to denigrate artists, but as somebody that admittedly doesn't appreciate art, I'm still not sure how artists aren't just pastiche image maker themselves. Based on your comment, I'm not entirely clear what the difference is

Well said. I actually do appreciate many forms of art, but I feel that many artist (that I know) are just a mixture of regurgitators and expert salesmen. They make something random, then come up with a backstory that makes it somewhat interesting. This AI can out perform them, without the need for the ingenuous hook story.

> I actually do appreciate many forms of art, but I feel that many artist (that I know) are just a mixture of regurgitators and expert salesmen. They make something random, then come up with a backstory that makes it somewhat interesting.

I wouldn't call your relationship with art "appreciation". Sounds more like undisguised disdain.

Re: Show HN: A stream of AI-generated art

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Post by nineteen999 »

tartoran wrote: post #79
nineteen999 wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don't know, and I'm sure it doesn't either. Even more pertinently, it doesn't care.

I might stretch it further that it can’t even care because the machine does not have the capability to care.

I think to the average human, that was implicit in my comment, but for the benefit of the machines, it's good to spell it out.

Re: Show HN: A stream of AI-generated art

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Post by allovernow »

This is indistinguishable from something that would be hanging in an art museum, and anyone pretending otherwise only believes so because they know a priori that it is generated by ML.

Honestly I would consider buying something like this, though I'd never waste my money on something so pretentious from a human. This, however, is an achievement, and there's beauty in that.

Edit: in fact, if love to see two tests: a blind test with a series of humans, and a classifier trained to differentiate between machine and human generated art. I have no doubt that the humans would not score much better than chance - I bet only an artificial discriminator would be able to tell, and then only because of subtle differences in pixel distributions that humans won't perceive. Throw in a couple different GANs trained on different distributions and even a machine will have trouble telling the difference!

Re: Show HN: A stream of AI-generated art

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Post by mkarliner »

tacheiordache wrote: post #66
davidajackson wrote: post #61

They look great. If you make something where people can pick say paintings/styles they like, and then you generate custom for them until they choose one (and presumably then un-watermark or high res it), you may have a business here.

Ok. What’s the point of that, original poster or canvas print? In a way training AI on existing art and generating some more amounts to vulgarizing abstract art or art in general and doesn’t add much to it, it is a gimmick. It certainly looks attractive but does it have any real value?

Or taking lots of photos and selecting the one with the decisive moment in it? People create 'art' like that all the time. It's art because I say it's art, it may not be someones else's idea of art. The artist (even an AI) and the the viewer form a system and art is the result. Would one of these be art in the middle of the forest? Or a Leonardo?

Re: Show HN: A stream of AI-generated art

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Post by ramoz »

Impressive on the surface. but, with a general idea of how the art was created, I fail to gain emotion, resemblance, or some form of appreciation that I've felt from certain art before.

Still, I guess "art" is all subjective anyway & this is still great stuff.

Re: Show HN: A stream of AI-generated art

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Post by joshspankit »

rfeague wrote: post #59
valentinvieriu wrote: post #4

Author Here: Just wanted to share some technical details. The code can be found here https://github.com/valentinvieriu/stylegan2 The main code and modification were put together by https://github.com/pbaylies/stylegan2 . I've started with the pretrained ffhq model, and I've trained it using come hand picked 1000 images of cubist Wikiart paintings. The frontend is Vuejs and it's using the amazing https://github.com/Ak…

I think you have an opportunity here --- I found myself wondering how much it would cost to get a nice-quality print on canvas or metal. Something I could hang in my office. They look that good. Are they (or could they be) generated in sufficiently high resolution for a large format print?

Tbh, with direct printing to (large) canvas being reasonably priced now, this could be an easy sell

Especially if they can be generated at 300dpi+

Re: Show HN: A stream of AI-generated art

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Post by craftinator »

drongoking wrote: post #91
craftinator wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well said. I actually do appreciate many forms of art, but I feel that many artist (that I know) are just a mixture of regurgitators and expert salesmen. They make something random, then come up with a backstory that makes it somewhat interesting. This AI can out perform them, without the need for the ingenuous hook story.

> I actually do appreciate many forms of art, but I feel that many artist (that I know) are just a mixture of regurgitators and expert salesmen. They make something random, then come up with a backstory that makes it somewhat interesting. I wouldn't call your relationship with art "appreciation". Sounds more like undisguised disdain.

I appreciate art, not artists. You seem to either have misread what I said, or are actively trying to misattribute my words.

Re: Show HN: A stream of AI-generated art

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Post by TheGallopedHigh »

allovernow wrote: post #93

This is indistinguishable from something that would be hanging in an art museum, and anyone pretending otherwise only believes so because they know a priori that it is generated by ML. Honestly I would consider buying something like this, though I'd never waste my money on something so pretentious from a human. This, however, is an achievement, and there's beauty in that. Edit: in fact, if love to see two tests: a bl…

You could always scale down the image so that the clsssifier “sees” on the same scale as a human...

Re: Show HN: A stream of AI-generated art

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Post by dimitry12 »

valentinvieriu wrote: post #4

Author Here: Just wanted to share some technical details. The code can be found here https://github.com/valentinvieriu/stylegan2 The main code and modification were put together by https://github.com/pbaylies/stylegan2 . I've started with the pretrained ffhq model, and I've trained it using come hand picked 1000 images of cubist Wikiart paintings. The frontend is Vuejs and it's using the amazing https://github.com/Ak…

I would love to see TensorBoard learning curves from your experiment: score/real and score/fake. I've tried fine-tuning FFHQ-model before and training was not progressing as I expected it to.

Re: Show HN: A stream of AI-generated art

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Post by mattsahr »

The further down the page I scrolled, the more I got a kind of despair. To realize that the space was infinite, and I would never reach its end. Each individual image is pretty cool. As a collection, they're sad.

What's funny is that I then tabbed back to HN, where I was deep down the comments tree, and momentarily I forgot that real humans make these comments. I thought "I shall never reach the end of the HN comments. It's all AI - generating a pastiche of plausible opinions and sentences-that-appear-sentient." Same despair. Quite a relief, then, to get to the end of the page.

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