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Google ditches its free WiFi service in South Africa, three months after launch

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Re: Google ditches its free WiFi service in South Africa, three months after launch

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If I hand my child over to someone else to raise forever, I'm ditching them. :p

But if you sell a car to a new owner, you aren't ditching it in the woods.

Notice that you had to add "in the woods" to make it clear that ditching is negative here.

Re: Google ditches its free WiFi service in South Africa, three months after launch

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I don't really know why Google, a company, is doing what should be done by the government with no clear benefit to the bottom line. This is not to say they shouldn’t do this, but if you look at it that way, it shouldn't be surprising at all. If they really wanted to help they probably should have teamed up with the government to ensure that there is government buy in to the program.

The South African government would have to be capable of managing some kind of project competently, which they demonstrate they are not able to do on a regular basis.

Re: Google ditches its free WiFi service in South Africa, three months after launch

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"ditches" definitely not the word that should describe this (this is towards the article and not the HN submitter since it's the article's title); it could lead those who don't click to think it's another project Google has shut down. > “We are transferring our Station operations in South Africa to Think WiFi who will now carry out the project independently,” a spokesperson told Business Insider SA. > “We'll work wit…

In all likelihood the “transfer” is just a way for Google to save face and avoid yet another “Google kills project” news cycle. Good on the editors for not falling for it.

silicon valley: “fail fast”

also silicon valley: “google shuts down too many things”

Re: Google ditches its free WiFi service in South Africa, three months after launch

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I don't really know why Google, a company, is doing what should be done by the government with no clear benefit to the bottom line. This is not to say they shouldn’t do this, but if you look at it that way, it shouldn't be surprising at all. If they really wanted to help they probably should have teamed up with the government to ensure that there is government buy in to the program.

Google needs all the good PR it can get, these days. I'd be willing to pour money into ventures like this if I was in their position, too.

Re: Google ditches its free WiFi service in South Africa, three months after launch

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More people using web -> more ad revenue for Google

"Commoditize your complements." Covered by Joel Spolsky in an oldy but goody: https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2002/06/12/strategy-letter-v/ (2002!)

Small companies grow their market share. Big companies grow their market.

Re: Google ditches its free WiFi service in South Africa, three months after launch

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In all likelihood the “transfer” is just a way for Google to save face and avoid yet another “Google kills project” news cycle. Good on the editors for not falling for it.

silicon valley: “fail fast” also silicon valley: “google shuts down too many things”

public: not interested in adopting a product that likely will disappear when I start to depend on it

Re: Google ditches its free WiFi service in South Africa, three months after launch

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I appreciate that Google tries new things, but I don't get why their success rate seems to fall far short of Amazon.

I think they way they see it is they are a company of scale. Scale is what they are good at (if anything). So they shutdown lots of small successes to try and focus on the huge wins.. things like youtube, gmail, google docs, etc. things millions of people use.

This is a reasonable perspective on their actions, but it then it still belies a huge glaring problem in Google fundamentally lacking the ability to understand which projects have the potential for scale at the desired level. It seems a standard part of a typical SV pitch deck to address the potential market and growth opportunities. Sure, they're wildly optimistic most times, but VC knows this and can price it in. But it almost seems like Google doesn't have the internal filtering mechanism necessary to perform this same function.

Re: Google ditches its free WiFi service in South Africa, three months after launch

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This is how it works: 1. Googler wants a promo. They know they need to "launch" to get promo. They can't get a promo if they just improve or maintain something that already exists. 2. Googler gets together with other googlers and puts together something they could launch. Nobody cares if it makes any sense. 3. The thing launches. Googler gets their promo. It is now pointless to spend any effort on maintaining somethi…

"You get the behavior you reward. This is what Google rewards." From what I have heard, I think you're right. Promotions and kudos flow from launching new products & services, but not in maintaining them.

Yes, it convinces me there needs to be a 3rd stage to the old axiom: 1) Ideas are easy but 2) execution is hard and (new) 3) Maintenance is boring and lacks prestige but you'll fail without it.

Re: Google ditches its free WiFi service in South Africa, three months after launch

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In all likelihood the “transfer” is just a way for Google to save face and avoid yet another “Google kills project” news cycle. Good on the editors for not falling for it.

Another possibility is that the legal landscape was more hostile than Google anticipated and they essentially got squeezed out.

Isn't "this didn't go the way we thought it would and we're not willing to fight for it" the reason why all their products die?
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