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Re: Show HN: A stream of AI-generated art

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Post by Jupe »

valentinvieriu wrote: post #4

Author Here: Just wanted to share some technical details. The code can be found here https://github.com/valentinvieriu/stylegan2 The main code and modification were put together by https://github.com/pbaylies/stylegan2 . I've started with the pretrained ffhq model, and I've trained it using come hand picked 1000 images of cubist Wikiart paintings. The frontend is Vuejs and it's using the amazing https://github.com/Ak…

Fascinating stuff.

Who decides what gets shared? Are you posting everything, or do you curate the results of the algorithm?

Re: Show HN: A stream of AI-generated art

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Post by tacheiordache »

tacheiordache wrote: post #70
sporkologist wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So what is about creation?

We train algos on creation and we think AI nailed it

Would be more intersting explaining the computer what art is, give it some hints and let it come up With something. This is all but a gimmicky remix of previous work, whatever was trained on

Re: Show HN: A stream of AI-generated art

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Post by julianj »

qaq wrote: post #67
kengor wrote: post #27

Not trying to denigrate the amazing technical skill needed to make this thing, but from the point of view of someone who makes art, this is a pastiche image maker. I have yet to see AI generate anything that's not a combination of existing images and techniques. Probably wading into murky philosophical waters here but I reckon art needs to be more than a nice 'arty' looking image to be considered any good. If you are…

I have yet to see 99.999% of artists "generate anything that's not a combination of existing images and techniques". As mere mortals are not in a position to hang the works of 0,0001% that can this AI art can be a reasonable alternative.

I wonder, based on your comment, what the output would look like if the training was inverted. Anything that looks like art would skew towards zero, for instance.

Re: Show HN: A stream of AI-generated art

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Post by kernelsanderz »

rfeague wrote: post #59
valentinvieriu wrote: post #4

Author Here: Just wanted to share some technical details. The code can be found here https://github.com/valentinvieriu/stylegan2 The main code and modification were put together by https://github.com/pbaylies/stylegan2 . I've started with the pretrained ffhq model, and I've trained it using come hand picked 1000 images of cubist Wikiart paintings. The frontend is Vuejs and it's using the amazing https://github.com/Ak…

I think you have an opportunity here --- I found myself wondering how much it would cost to get a nice-quality print on canvas or metal. Something I could hang in my office. They look that good. Are they (or could they be) generated in sufficiently high resolution for a large format print?

You can use a super-resolution tool like https://letsenhance.io/ to upscale the image which might make it better for printing.

Re: Show HN: A stream of AI-generated art

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Post by davidajackson »

tacheiordache wrote: post #66
davidajackson wrote: post #61

They look great. If you make something where people can pick say paintings/styles they like, and then you generate custom for them until they choose one (and presumably then un-watermark or high res it), you may have a business here.

Ok. What’s the point of that, original poster or canvas print? In a way training AI on existing art and generating some more amounts to vulgarizing abstract art or art in general and doesn’t add much to it, it is a gimmick. It certainly looks attractive but does it have any real value?

Have you ever seen things like fractals on people's walls? They are curiosities. I guess you could call them gimmicks, but I would just call them interesting--gimmicks has kind of derogatory tone.

Value is just what people will pay for it. Which is apparently, in some cases, more than 430k: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/25/arts/design/ai-art-sold-c...

The notion of vulgarizing art is what people said about jazz when it pulled people away from the "fine art" of classical (the "swamp of jazz"). How wrong they were. I don't think people will see beautiful art, albeit generated by an AI, as "vulgar" in the future.

Re: Show HN: A stream of AI-generated art

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Post by kernelsanderz »

valentinvieriu wrote: post #4

Author Here: Just wanted to share some technical details. The code can be found here https://github.com/valentinvieriu/stylegan2 The main code and modification were put together by https://github.com/pbaylies/stylegan2 . I've started with the pretrained ffhq model, and I've trained it using come hand picked 1000 images of cubist Wikiart paintings. The frontend is Vuejs and it's using the amazing https://github.com/Ak…

Really great project. I'm interested in how you've implemented the back-end? How did you productionize the GAN model? Or did you just pregenerate 1000 images? (ie. are the images generated on-demand?)

Re: Show HN: A stream of AI-generated art

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Post by tartoran »

davidajackson wrote: post #76
tacheiordache wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok. What’s the point of that, original poster or canvas print? In a way training AI on existing art and generating some more amounts to vulgarizing abstract art or art in general and doesn’t add much to it, it is a gimmick. It certainly looks attractive but does it have any real value?

Have you ever seen things like fractals on people's walls? They are curiosities. I guess you could call them gimmicks, but I would just call them interesting--gimmicks has kind of derogatory tone. Value is just what people will pay for it. Which is apparently, in some cases, more than 430k: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/25/arts/design/ai-art-sold-c... The notion of vulgarizing art is what people said about jazz whe…

No no, fractals are not gimmicks. Theres a beauty in mathematical relationship that can be greatly appreciated and taken in. On the other hand this is stats of existing work remixed. Looks pretty but hasn’t got a lot of value. Yes, could be printed on canvas if that helps. Could eventually finds its way in IKEA because it does look pretty and does have some ornamental value. Question is, would anyone hold onto any particular piece for 100 years or more?

Re: Show HN: A stream of AI-generated art

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Post by tartoran »

nineteen999 wrote: post #56
hug wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can this machine, beautiful art though it may make, look at the work of the cubists and spontaneously generate Gehry? Without Mondrian, would it find beauty in clean abstract lines and sharp angles? Can it, by itself, come up with the concept of neoplasticism and implement that, in any way, to create a new beautiful artwork? Would the AI, not for Klimt, have an appreciation for how casually erotic the female form can…

> I don't know, and I'm sure it doesn't either. Even more pertinently, it doesn't care.

I might stretch it further that it can’t even care because the machine does not have the capability to care.

Re: Show HN: A stream of AI-generated art

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Post by thomk »

weerd wrote: post #49
thomk wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with you. I think the reason AI hasn't made anything but derivatives is in part because machines are not sentient. 100% of AI is machine learning, there is no heart or conscience. However art is anything that moves you and the paintings on this website are most definitely moving to me. I find them terrifying and a lot of that has to do with the fact that a machine made them. There isn't anything really grotes…

There really is something nauseating or repulsive about this. I've had the same feeling with other ML generated images. It's alien and familiar at the same time.

It reminds me of this nightmare that was making the rounds a while back: https://sea.mashable.com/culture/3430/people-cant-figure-out...
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