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Re: Show HN: A stream of AI-generated art

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Post by yantrams »

valentinvieriu wrote: post #4

Author Here: Just wanted to share some technical details. The code can be found here https://github.com/valentinvieriu/stylegan2 The main code and modification were put together by https://github.com/pbaylies/stylegan2 . I've started with the pretrained ffhq model, and I've trained it using come hand picked 1000 images of cubist Wikiart paintings. The frontend is Vuejs and it's using the amazing https://github.com/Ak…

Very cool. Some of the results reminded me of Max Ernst’s frottage works and futurist compositions. If you are interested in exploring this with other curated collections, reach out to me. I have a MOMA collection of about 10k images.

Re: Show HN: A stream of AI-generated art

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Post by alharith »

drcode wrote: post #48
alharith wrote: post #13

I get the appeal from a "it's fascinating we can make computers do this" stance. I don't get the appeal as trying to appreciate this as actual art (or music in the case of ai-generated tunes). Art for me is about the connection I can make with the person who made it. I can't make a connection with an algorithm. I view it and I am like "OK this is interesting" but that's about it. There's no desire to try and understa…

I never really understood why people want to know so much about an artist, and not just appreciate the art, in itself. If the artist has such a great story, I wish they (or someone else) would just write a book about them, and do without the art as an intermediary.

Because we are human beings. Art is just as much about connection as much as it is about technique.

Re: Show HN: A stream of AI-generated art

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Post by alharith »

dwohnitmok wrote: post #41
alharith wrote: post #13

I get the appeal from a "it's fascinating we can make computers do this" stance. I don't get the appeal as trying to appreciate this as actual art (or music in the case of ai-generated tunes). Art for me is about the connection I can make with the person who made it. I can't make a connection with an algorithm. I view it and I am like "OK this is interesting" but that's about it. There's no desire to try and understa…

Out of curiosity, do you feel that an artwork having an anonymous author substantially detracts from your appreciation of it?

No, because the art allows me to get to know the person. If an anonymous voice tells me a short story I enjoy, I still get to appreciate the qualities of the person's storytelling (almost a completely lost art these days)

Re: Show HN: A stream of AI-generated art

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Post by alharith »

qmmmur wrote: post #16
alharith wrote: post #13

I get the appeal from a "it's fascinating we can make computers do this" stance. I don't get the appeal as trying to appreciate this as actual art (or music in the case of ai-generated tunes). Art for me is about the connection I can make with the person who made it. I can't make a connection with an algorithm. I view it and I am like "OK this is interesting" but that's about it. There's no desire to try and understa…

What about connecting with the person who wrote the algorithm? Imagine a time in which music was only heard when performed by the right group of people. Without that the appreciation was mostly for a cultural memory or written record of the music. There are more ways to connect with art and it's maker than playing back the audio or opening the image.

I can appreciate the algorithm, and have appreciated in the past, if there are artful qualities to it, but in this case it isn't quite apt to say that as we are talking about the output of the algorithm, not the algorithm itself.

Re: Show HN: A stream of AI-generated art

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Post by nineteen999 »

hug wrote: post #50
iakh wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not trying to denigrate artists, but as somebody that admittedly doesn't appreciate art, I'm still not sure how artists aren't just pastiche image maker themselves. Based on your comment, I'm not entirely clear what the difference is

Can this machine, beautiful art though it may make, look at the work of the cubists and spontaneously generate Gehry? Without Mondrian, would it find beauty in clean abstract lines and sharp angles? Can it, by itself, come up with the concept of neoplasticism and implement that, in any way, to create a new beautiful artwork? Would the AI, not for Klimt, have an appreciation for how casually erotic the female form can…

> I don't know, and I'm sure it doesn't either.

Even more pertinently, it doesn't care.

Re: Show HN: A stream of AI-generated art

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Post by alharith »

jan6 wrote: post #18
alharith wrote: post #13

I get the appeal from a "it's fascinating we can make computers do this" stance. I don't get the appeal as trying to appreciate this as actual art (or music in the case of ai-generated tunes). Art for me is about the connection I can make with the person who made it. I can't make a connection with an algorithm. I view it and I am like "OK this is interesting" but that's about it. There's no desire to try and understa…

how about... you pretend they're just from an infinite amount of anonymous authors? some of them feel pretty real to me, but then again, I don't know a thing 'bout this... were someone to make a catalogue of them, with random names and possibly authors, would you not enjoy it then, too, if you believe them to be made by humans?

Unfortunately, as an adult, my fantasy I create for myself will only take the enjoyment so far. I need some things to be based in reality at some point.

Re: Show HN: A stream of AI-generated art

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Post by joncrane »

pookeh wrote: post #45
valentinvieriu wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The challenge is that the Latent Space ( the space of all the art pieces of this model ) is so HUGE ( technically is infinite ) that there could be masterpieces sitting there undiscovered. I was aiming to create an interface to allow for crowd sourcing this process of finding those masterpieces. Hope the ui and and easy to pick some favorite process will help

Or... train AI to pick out the masterpieces...and loop.

Well people have to create the training dataset so we're on that path, should the author choose to continue on it.

Re: Show HN: A stream of AI-generated art

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Post by rfeague »

valentinvieriu wrote: post #4

Author Here: Just wanted to share some technical details. The code can be found here https://github.com/valentinvieriu/stylegan2 The main code and modification were put together by https://github.com/pbaylies/stylegan2 . I've started with the pretrained ffhq model, and I've trained it using come hand picked 1000 images of cubist Wikiart paintings. The frontend is Vuejs and it's using the amazing https://github.com/Ak…

I think you have an opportunity here --- I found myself wondering how much it would cost to get a nice-quality print on canvas or metal. Something I could hang in my office. They look that good. Are they (or could they be) generated in sufficiently high resolution for a large format print?

Re: Show HN: A stream of AI-generated art

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Post by craftinator »

iakh wrote: post #39
kengor wrote: post #27

Not trying to denigrate the amazing technical skill needed to make this thing, but from the point of view of someone who makes art, this is a pastiche image maker. I have yet to see AI generate anything that's not a combination of existing images and techniques. Probably wading into murky philosophical waters here but I reckon art needs to be more than a nice 'arty' looking image to be considered any good. If you are…

Not trying to denigrate artists, but as somebody that admittedly doesn't appreciate art, I'm still not sure how artists aren't just pastiche image maker themselves. Based on your comment, I'm not entirely clear what the difference is

Well said. I actually do appreciate many forms of art, but I feel that many artist (that I know) are just a mixture of regurgitators and expert salesmen. They make something random, then come up with a backstory that makes it somewhat interesting. This AI can out perform them, without the need for the ingenuous hook story.
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