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Re: Show HN: A stream of AI-generated art

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Post by ringzero »

alharith wrote: post #13

I get the appeal from a "it's fascinating we can make computers do this" stance. I don't get the appeal as trying to appreciate this as actual art (or music in the case of ai-generated tunes). Art for me is about the connection I can make with the person who made it. I can't make a connection with an algorithm. I view it and I am like "OK this is interesting" but that's about it. There's no desire to try and understa…

Yes - I don’t think it’s a stretch to say that most people who appreciate fine arts feel this way.

Tech is more of a, “why is a painting of a triangle worth so much!?” crowd (see: other comments).

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Post by Rochus »

valentinvieriu wrote: post #19
Rochus wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are certainly cases where this might be true, but I doubt that this assumption is generally true; one would have to do some experiments and put these artificially generated paintings up for real auctions (for the purpose of scientific knowledge, of course, not to cheat).

I've tried this around with some friends of mine and they could not spot the difference between Person generated and AI generated. None were art experts just people with good taste.

Well, there is a considerable difference between "good taste" and professional experience with the art market. A lot of art sales are made with things that are totally tasteless from my unprofessional perspective. It would therefore make a lot of sense to experiment with real art experts with experience of the market. Maybe you have heard of the experiments where they submitted machine generated publications to scientific conferences and succeeded with it ;-)

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Post by jan6 »

Rochus wrote: post #5

I wonder how art experts would assess these paintings in a blinded experiment ("blinded" figuratively, of course ;-)

I'd bet most of them are quite "low quality art", but interesting anyway... plus, afaik, generally the image itself is not that important, as is the story behind it, if you have a story, a black square is a masterpiece, if you don't, it's junk...

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Post by anigbrowl »

valentinvieriu wrote: post #6
dvh wrote: post #3

I think modern art is not about creation, it is about ability to sell.

Good point! So what it needs is a story then? How about the work, is it interesting?

I like the work very much. The art market is very much about story. Check out a documentary (I think available on Netflix') called Beltracchi: The art of Forgery which wrestles with this question.

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Post by kengor »

Not trying to denigrate the amazing technical skill needed to make this thing, but from the point of view of someone who makes art, this is a pastiche image maker. I have yet to see AI generate anything that's not a combination of existing images and techniques. Probably wading into murky philosophical waters here but I reckon art needs to be more than a nice 'arty' looking image to be considered any good. If you are going to make Art that is worth the capital 'A' on the front, then it has to mean something. However I suspect the days of actually making Art are in the past. We're on to something else now. Not necessarily better or worse, just different. Art is an old idea, not entirely relevant any more.

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Post by tkgally »

Rochus wrote: post #7
valentinvieriu wrote: post #4

Author Here: Just wanted to share some technical details. The code can be found here https://github.com/valentinvieriu/stylegan2 The main code and modification were put together by https://github.com/pbaylies/stylegan2 . I've started with the pretrained ffhq model, and I've trained it using come hand picked 1000 images of cubist Wikiart paintings. The frontend is Vuejs and it's using the amazing https://github.com/Ak…

Great idea. Looks very convincing and aesthetic to me, but I am not an art expert. But I do know a lot about music and I am not yet convinced of the current offers of AI in this regard. So it would be very interesting to know how art experts react to these paintings.

I'm not an art expert or an artist, but I spent a lot of time in art galleries and museums forty years ago looking closely at and thinking about abstract art. Some of the pieces here strike me as remarkably good and interesting to look at. If they had been implemented in oils rather than pixels, they would not seem out of place on museum walls.
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