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Re: How to Take Smart Notes

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Post by bachmeier »

nextos wrote: post #43
asterisk_ wrote: post #33

Note-taking seems to have gained popularity on HackerNews over the past few weeks (or my attention has been biased towards these submissions, at least). I've long been interested in the domain of "personal knowledge engineering" and this clearly seems a common thread within our community. As a brief overview of the "SOTA:" * Emacs and Vim users skew towards Org-mode or Vim wiki. * Roam Research is sort of a recent we…

I use a small subset of Org Mode myself. But I think people focus too much on tools vs method. Plain text plus ripgrep can work great. Lühmann used pen and paper, and he built some hugely successful Zettelkastens. Many users at Zettelkasten.de write super simple notes in Markdown. Actually, I'd never move away from plain text or a plain text format like Org, Markdown or similar as it is really future proof. Will Roam…

I think people focus too much on tools vs method

I've been guilty of this too. A note is a way to get something out of your head. I always return to plain text files on my computer because that's the fastest/least resistance and there just aren't any additional benefits for me to using other approaches. Linux command line tools are a simple yet effective way to work with text.

Re: How to Take Smart Notes

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Post by criddell »

100721 wrote: post #80
criddell wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the more enjoyable a tool is to use, the more likely you are to use it That's why I often use a tablet and stylus for anything I intend to keep. I enjoy using the gear. I like having pens and markers created exactly how I like them and they never run out. I like being able to make my paper as big as I want it to be. Sometimes I want blank paper, sometimes dot grid, sometimes lines, etc... and I can have them all in…

I, too, thoroughly enjoy using a tablet. I have been on the hunt for something that has an organizational structure like graphs, paired with support for pen inputs. Right now I've been using OneNote and it is falling victim to the described problem of greater and greater segmentation of ideas. Right now, it seems like the only real solution is to homebrew something that hits the Microsoft API and associates document…

That's a really interesting idea.

My problem with a graph structure is that ultimately I end up with notes that fit more than one bucket. For that reason I usually gravitate to a structure built on tags.

Re: How to Take Smart Notes

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Post by procgen »

100721 wrote: post #77
AlphaWeaver wrote: post #74

In the realm of note taking and personal knowledge management apps, I've been shopping around recently. Notion is very popular, and Roam Research [0] has been the popular scrappy upstart that people have been looking at, but I've been unhappy with these since neither has an API (and neither are open source.) I would _strongly_ urge HN readers to take a look at Tiddlywiki [1]. It's popped up on Hacker News before, and…

Have you found anything like a hybrid between OneNote for its drawing/handwriting-with-stylus support + Roam or TiddlyWiki for the graph-like organization?

Seconded! I've been looking around, but nothing seems to press both of these buttons. It's a deal-breaker for me, as I often think by sketching. In my notes, doodles are first-class citizens.

Re: How to Take Smart Notes

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Post by bobbylarrybobby »

AlphaWeaver wrote: post #74

In the realm of note taking and personal knowledge management apps, I've been shopping around recently. Notion is very popular, and Roam Research [0] has been the popular scrappy upstart that people have been looking at, but I've been unhappy with these since neither has an API (and neither are open source.) I would _strongly_ urge HN readers to take a look at Tiddlywiki [1]. It's popped up on Hacker News before, and…

Is the TiddlyWiki experience at all like their website? I found it immensely confusing. Rather than navigate between pages (which is how a wiki is supposed to work?) every link I clicked on that page opened a new sub-window right below, which both messed up the existing page structure and also made the current page URL useless for bookmarking.

Re: How to Take Smart Notes

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Post by thunderbong »

100721 wrote: post #77
AlphaWeaver wrote: post #74

In the realm of note taking and personal knowledge management apps, I've been shopping around recently. Notion is very popular, and Roam Research [0] has been the popular scrappy upstart that people have been looking at, but I've been unhappy with these since neither has an API (and neither are open source.) I would _strongly_ urge HN readers to take a look at Tiddlywiki [1]. It's popped up on Hacker News before, and…

Have you found anything like a hybrid between OneNote for its drawing/handwriting-with-stylus support + Roam or TiddlyWiki for the graph-like organization?

What about Trillium? (https://github.com/zadam/trilium)

Re: How to Take Smart Notes

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Post by bobbylarrybobby »

100721 wrote: post #77
AlphaWeaver wrote: post #74

In the realm of note taking and personal knowledge management apps, I've been shopping around recently. Notion is very popular, and Roam Research [0] has been the popular scrappy upstart that people have been looking at, but I've been unhappy with these since neither has an API (and neither are open source.) I would _strongly_ urge HN readers to take a look at Tiddlywiki [1]. It's popped up on Hacker News before, and…

Have you found anything like a hybrid between OneNote for its drawing/handwriting-with-stylus support + Roam or TiddlyWiki for the graph-like organization?

If you're an apple device user, Bear Notes is pretty good. You can link to any note from within any other note, so it's wiki-like in that sense. And it does have sketching.

Re: How to Take Smart Notes

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Post by lethologica »

I’ve tried this and failed with a Tiddlywiki. I found the Métis if entering data too cumbersome and gave up. All I want is a single text file that I Can take multiple notes in and link those notes internally in that single file. I wish Apple notes had an easy way of doing this but for now I’m stuck with writing HTML.

Re: How to Take Smart Notes

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Post by bobbylarrybobby »

lethologica wrote: post #87

I’ve tried this and failed with a Tiddlywiki. I found the Métis if entering data too cumbersome and gave up. All I want is a single text file that I Can take multiple notes in and link those notes internally in that single file. I wish Apple notes had an easy way of doing this but for now I’m stuck with writing HTML.

I am routinely blown away by the fact that apple doesn't expose URLs for individual pieces of your data that they store (emails, notes, messages, files, etc). There's no way to reference another note in the current note except to share the other note and get its iCloud link.

However, there is an editor that makes linking between notes seamless, called Bear (bear.app).

Re: How to Take Smart Notes

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Post by C0d3r »

bobbylarrybobby wrote: post #84
AlphaWeaver wrote: post #74

In the realm of note taking and personal knowledge management apps, I've been shopping around recently. Notion is very popular, and Roam Research [0] has been the popular scrappy upstart that people have been looking at, but I've been unhappy with these since neither has an API (and neither are open source.) I would _strongly_ urge HN readers to take a look at Tiddlywiki [1]. It's popped up on Hacker News before, and…

Is the TiddlyWiki experience at all like their website? I found it immensely confusing. Rather than navigate between pages (which is how a wiki is supposed to work?) every link I clicked on that page opened a new sub-window right below, which both messed up the existing page structure and also made the current page URL useless for bookmarking.

It's exactly like that, the page runs itself on TiddlyWiki

Re: How to Take Smart Notes

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Post by kevas »

100721 wrote: post #77
AlphaWeaver wrote: post #74

In the realm of note taking and personal knowledge management apps, I've been shopping around recently. Notion is very popular, and Roam Research [0] has been the popular scrappy upstart that people have been looking at, but I've been unhappy with these since neither has an API (and neither are open source.) I would _strongly_ urge HN readers to take a look at Tiddlywiki [1]. It's popped up on Hacker News before, and…

Have you found anything like a hybrid between OneNote for its drawing/handwriting-with-stylus support + Roam or TiddlyWiki for the graph-like organization?

Check out Agenda, MarginNote 3, or Zotero
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