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South Korea switching their 3.3M PCs to Linux

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Re: South Korea switching their 3.3M PCs to Linux

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I said this 10 years ago: if government from many developed nations pool their resources together, we could have a serious alternative to Windows and Windows Server. Most of the base elements are already there.

We already have a better alternative to Windows Server. It's Linux.

Perhaps. But far from practical for mass consumption.

Re: South Korea switching their 3.3M PCs to Linux

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Windows 10 was the last nail in the coffin for Windows....

Perhaps. But if Linux went mainstream it would probably undermine Apple more than Microsoft. A colleague, who is far more technical than I am, recently said, "I use Apple because it smooths out the bumps. Otherwise, I'd using Linux locally."

Re: South Korea switching their 3.3M PCs to Linux

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since you’re here, can you explain what’s special about the Hancom/Hangul office software? The Wikipedia articles all just say things like “specialized support” or “special needs”. I would have assumed that the key requirement is Hangul input, which presumably other word processing and spreadsheet programs could do just fine.

> I would have assumed that the key requirement is Hangul input, which presumably other word processing and spreadsheet programs could do just fine. Hangul support was a key feature in the 80s where everything was MS-DOS; and it wasn’t prevalent then where a lot of hangul-supporting word processors were on the market. The killer feature of the Hangul Word Processor to most users is that it allows substantial control…

> while in Word, you feel like you’re wrestling with the layout engine.

That's an understatement, the UX for that in Word is pretty awful without some deep familiarity. Even using tables to format stuff was difficult and choppy.

Although I've never had to use Word professionally and fortunately most of my education just required the standard format + some spacing requirements, which were easy.

Re: South Korea switching their 3.3M PCs to Linux

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South korean developer here. I am quite aware of government plans for software since I've done my service as a software developer for army. There is a company called TmaxSoft which advertises itfself as only builders to the 'Korean OS'. Fueled by relatively high patriotism shared by average koreans, the government had been subsidizing this firm for more than 10 years. Despite the effort to liberate the nation from a…

More on TMaxSoft. This software firm builds many 'hard' softwares like OS, DBMS or even MapReduce data processing cluster(like hadoop and spark). One might naturally ask 'why build a wheel while there are plenty already built by open source developers?' and economically aware person might also ask 'how are selling their products while competing against ubuntu, postgresql, spark?' Cloning something from scratch and le…

> Enforcing home grown products to average customers, subsidizing one specific firm to take all domestic market share is how Samsung and Hyundai made its way to top global firms.

I can see how this would ensure domestic success, but how does that translate to 'top global firm' status unless the products / features & pricing are significantly superior?

Re: South Korea switching their 3.3M PCs to Linux

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Windows 10 was the last nail in the coffin for Windows....

Windows 10 seems to run faster on older computers than even 7 did. Not saying it's my favorite thing, but rolling updates and decent built-in anti-malware make it a fairly good option these days, and with WSL (Windows Subsystem for Linux) and Multipass, there's a lot of Linux stuff that can be done on Windows. IMO, Windows 10, the separated kernel stuff they're doing, and their current support for Open Source softwar…

I've a long time Windows user. Lately, I've been considering a switch to MBP but the cost is ridiculous. I'm now thinking my best choice is to upgrade my hardware and do a deep dive in Windows Subsystem of Linux. That would give me the best of both world, yes?

Re: South Korea switching their 3.3M PCs to Linux

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Last time they trusted Microsoft, they got their entire country stuck with ActiveX; that said, possibly a bit of column A, a bit of column B.

That was more South Korea’s own bad crypto policy’s fault than Microsoft’s fault, though.

It was because the U.S. government placed export restrictions on Rijndael. I mean, the alternative might have been for them to just use Rijndael anyway, and that would probably have been better in the long run, but heh. Now that that stuff is out of the way, I honestly can't see why they don't (or didn't until recently?) allow Rijndael or ChaCha20.

Re: South Korea switching their 3.3M PCs to Linux

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South korean developer here. I am quite aware of government plans for software since I've done my service as a software developer for army. There is a company called TmaxSoft which advertises itfself as only builders to the 'Korean OS'. Fueled by relatively high patriotism shared by average koreans, the government had been subsidizing this firm for more than 10 years. Despite the effort to liberate the nation from a…

More on TMaxSoft. This software firm builds many 'hard' softwares like OS, DBMS or even MapReduce data processing cluster(like hadoop and spark). One might naturally ask 'why build a wheel while there are plenty already built by open source developers?' and economically aware person might also ask 'how are selling their products while competing against ubuntu, postgresql, spark?' Cloning something from scratch and le…

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Re: South Korea switching their 3.3M PCs to Linux

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Is this actually likely to happen, or a negotiating manoeuvre with Microsoft?

It is not about negotiating a better price for Windows. A lot of government organizations switched last year or, in the case of the South Korean army, long ago.

https://linuxreviews.org/30%2B_South_Korean_Governmental_Org...

Re: South Korea switching their 3.3M PCs to Linux

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

More on TMaxSoft. This software firm builds many 'hard' softwares like OS, DBMS or even MapReduce data processing cluster(like hadoop and spark). One might naturally ask 'why build a wheel while there are plenty already built by open source developers?' and economically aware person might also ask 'how are selling their products while competing against ubuntu, postgresql, spark?' Cloning something from scratch and le…

> Enforcing home grown products to average customers, subsidizing one specific firm to take all domestic market share is how Samsung and Hyundai made its way to top global firms. I can see how this would ensure domestic success, but how does that translate to 'top global firm' status unless the products / features & pricing are significantly superior?

It's hard to get to the point where your products are significantly superior if you have no revenue while you experiment with improvements to your product until it can compete on its own. Funding doesn't guarantee success, but without it you may have no chance at all.
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