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Clinical trials launch to test coronavirus treatments

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Re: Clinical trials launch to test coronavirus treatments

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This is crazy fast. Usually hit to target takes almost a year, and they are doing this all in less than a month.

The fact that coronavirus kills people so fast means that the test results come in in 20 days.

Of course the biggest problem is that the administration overhead needs to be significantly smaller, which means taking shortcuts.

Re: Clinical trials launch to test coronavirus treatments

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The official infection and death numbers in China appear to be completely fabricated as they followed an almost perfect quadratic progression: https://old.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/ez13dv/oc_...

None of the various measures taken to contain the outbreak have affected those numbers.

This apparently has happened before with organ donation data: https://bmcmedethics.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s129...

Re: Clinical trials launch to test coronavirus treatments

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The official infection and death numbers in China appear to be completely fabricated as they followed an almost perfect quadratic progression: https://old.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/ez13dv/oc_... None of the various measures taken to contain the outbreak have affected those numbers. This apparently has happened before with organ donation data: https://bmcmedethics.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s129...

A zero karma two day old account says something. Please. You're trolling.

Re: Clinical trials launch to test coronavirus treatments

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post #6

The official infection and death numbers in China appear to be completely fabricated as they followed an almost perfect quadratic progression: https://old.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/ez13dv/oc_... None of the various measures taken to contain the outbreak have affected those numbers. This apparently has happened before with organ donation data: https://bmcmedethics.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s129...

A zero karma two day old account says something. Please. You're trolling.

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Re: Clinical trials launch to test coronavirus treatments

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Interesting ethics of using people as the null hypothesis population knowing they are then condemned to death

You give the control arm the current best standard of care until and unless it becomes statistically obvious that your test arm is better and then ethically you're supposed to switch everyone to the drug at that point. It's not like the control group is denied the best care we know how to provide, just to accommodate experimentation.

Re: Clinical trials launch to test coronavirus treatments

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The official infection and death numbers in China appear to be completely fabricated as they followed an almost perfect quadratic progression: https://old.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/ez13dv/oc_... None of the various measures taken to contain the outbreak have affected those numbers. This apparently has happened before with organ donation data: https://bmcmedethics.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s129...

For all you know, this is the best-case outcome with countermeasures.

Re: Clinical trials launch to test coronavirus treatments

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Interesting ethics of using people as the null hypothesis population knowing they are then condemned to death

This is an objection that could be raised against literally any clinical trial.

If we knew that a treatment was effective and safe, it would indeed be immoral to withhold it from people. But we don't know that. Finding that out is the whole point of having trials!

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