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Treat Facebook like something between a telco and a newspaper, says Zuckerberg

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Re: Treat Facebook like something between a telco and a newspaper, says Zuckerberg

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Post by hi5eyes »

bonestamp2 wrote: post #22

Treat Facebook like cigarettes, says me. Suggesting they're a near necessary part of life, like a utility, is laughable. But since he brought it up, replacing them with a proper newspaper would be much more useful.

Facebook serves many important roles especially with the groups feature. I know many reddit/tech headasses will jerk off to the fact they abhor facebook but facebook is integral to many local communities helping facilitate an online flea market of sorts and almost being the most important network for students (used textbooks, study groups, entrepreneurship etc.)

dont like it but its much more useful than the local news website

Re: Treat Facebook like something between a telco and a newspaper, says Zuckerberg

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Post by Barrin92 »

I'm still not sure why we don't regulate companies like facebook like we did the rail industry. Force facebook and other social media companies to develop an open API and standard and guarantee interoparibility, akin to other federalized networks that already exist.

This takes the biggest anti-competitive aspect of facebook out, the network and walled garden effect they have due to their sheer size.

It will mean that companies like Signal have much greater chance to compete with whatsapp, it will reward whoever provides the best service to their users, and it is relatively light and uncomplicated regulation.

Re: Treat Facebook like something between a telco and a newspaper, says Zuckerberg

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Post by pochamago »

I'll admit, I just don't think the way we've been regulating social media has been bad. I think perceiving it as a source of news or truth instead of just a place where people talk to each other is weird. I understand that people don't like what some social media sites have become, but outside of removing content that isn't protected by the first amendment, I really don't see why we would want to create regulations surrounding it.

Re: Treat Facebook like something between a telco and a newspaper, says Zuckerberg

#34

Post by sjtindell »

aabhay wrote: post #24

Isn’t that the very problem with Facebook, that it wants to impartially serve content like a telco, but partially control the content like a newspaper?

I don’t think Facebook wants to control content, it’s hard, expensive, and hurts their reputation. It’s users and governments complaining that forces them into that game.

Re: Treat Facebook like something between a telco and a newspaper, says Zuckerberg

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Post by ginko »

hi5eyes wrote: post #31
bonestamp2 wrote: post #22

Treat Facebook like cigarettes, says me. Suggesting they're a near necessary part of life, like a utility, is laughable. But since he brought it up, replacing them with a proper newspaper would be much more useful.

Facebook serves many important roles especially with the groups feature. I know many reddit/tech headasses will jerk off to the fact they abhor facebook but facebook is integral to many local communities helping facilitate an online flea market of sorts and almost being the most important network for students (used textbooks, study groups, entrepreneurship etc.) dont like it but its much more useful than the local ne…

Yeah, but I don't see how that's a good thing. Many groups near me have moved exclusively to Facebook meaning I'm essentially locked out from participating in them.

Previously stuff like this would have been organized through a mailing list or maybe a BBS. Facebook taking this over means that you have to allow them spying on you to take part in basic social activities.

Re: Treat Facebook like something between a telco and a newspaper, says Zuckerberg

#36

Post by iamleppert »

A phone company doesn’t suggest other phone numbers or people you should be calling, or try and optimize for your engagement on making the most phone calls. A telco company also traditionally does not directly market to users, or sell ads based on the content of their data (voice calls and text messages). So by this test, no, Facebook is nothing like a telco.

Re: Treat Facebook like something between a telco and a newspaper, says Zuckerberg

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Post by heartbeats »

ginko wrote: post #35
hi5eyes wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Facebook serves many important roles especially with the groups feature. I know many reddit/tech headasses will jerk off to the fact they abhor facebook but facebook is integral to many local communities helping facilitate an online flea market of sorts and almost being the most important network for students (used textbooks, study groups, entrepreneurship etc.) dont like it but its much more useful than the local ne…

Yeah, but I don't see how that's a good thing. Many groups near me have moved exclusively to Facebook meaning I'm essentially locked out from participating in them. Previously stuff like this would have been organized through a mailing list or maybe a BBS. Facebook taking this over means that you have to allow them spying on you to take part in basic social activities.

But that is the point. It's a feature, not a bug, to filter out anyone who is not willing to click through a license agreement for the sake of participating in the community. Such an individual is antisocial.

Re: Treat Facebook like something between a telco and a newspaper, says Zuckerberg

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Post by chillacy »

iamleppert wrote: post #36

A phone company doesn’t suggest other phone numbers or people you should be calling, or try and optimize for your engagement on making the most phone calls. A telco company also traditionally does not directly market to users, or sell ads based on the content of their data (voice calls and text messages). So by this test, no, Facebook is nothing like a telco.

That seems to be the point in the article, it's not like a telco. Another thread here points out that it's not like a newspaper either.

In reality it's an entirely new category and applying regulations from the 20th century isn't going to work as well as coming up with entirely new ones to address entirely new problems.

Re: Treat Facebook like something between a telco and a newspaper, says Zuckerberg

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Post by amirmc »

sjtindell wrote: post #34
aabhay wrote: post #24

Isn’t that the very problem with Facebook, that it wants to impartially serve content like a telco, but partially control the content like a newspaper?

I don’t think Facebook wants to control content, it’s hard, expensive, and hurts their reputation. It’s users and governments complaining that forces them into that game.

Of course FB wants to control content. It helps them increase engagement and also monetise.
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