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Astronomers want public funds for intelligent life search

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Re: Astronomers want public funds for intelligent life search

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Post by opless »

bigyikes wrote: post #9
opless wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You mean like ... South Korea, New Zeland, and the UK who are already there? Seriously, the USA aren't the only armed forces that patrol the area.

Are you prepared to rely on foreign governments protecting your interests? And what happens if those countries you mentioned adopt the same mindset?

I'm quite happy with the two UK Navy frigates patrolling the area.

The UK has a significantly smaller defence budget than the USA does. Which kinda proves my point.

Re: Astronomers want public funds for intelligent life search

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Post by melling »

RobertoG wrote: post #13
aSplash0fDerp wrote: post #12

I crunched for years on seti@home at the turn of the century and have always been a fan of the project. It makes sense to increased research funding now that they have a long list of newly discovered planets to target, but what other scientific endeavors do they retire to open up any meaningful government funding? With trillion dollar deficits in the forecast, earmarking new money does not sound like an easy task to…

Debt is different from deficits. I suppose you mean "trillion dollar debt". Note that deficit could be (or not) inflationary, but debt is the accumulate of money already spent in the economy.

No I think he does mean trillion dollar deficit.

The US deficit is over $1 trillion a year. The debt is over $23 trillion.

Re: Astronomers want public funds for intelligent life search

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Post by Revolutionisto »

Apparently what seems to be alien life was already observed on Earth a few years back. We just needed sufficiently good radar to see through their cloaking veils in the visible light spectrum. Cool hint as to what’s possible with technology and the laws of physics! As documented in the NY Times:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/16/us/politics/unidentified-...

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/26/us/politics/ufo-sightings...

Re: Astronomers want public funds for intelligent life search

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Post by rs23296008n1 »

The US hasn't even stabilised its environment, healthcare and any number of other important areas of basic human needs. Money for finding extra-terrestrial life would be better spent on earth fixing the mess.

Or use it to get us to mars. At least that fits with a "plan B" since humans existing "only on earth" is still a bad idea. Same goes for moon exploration / asteroid mining. Good ideas. Raw resources shouldn't be so rare as they currently are.

But sending a message to aliens? We've already done this. For decades. More than a century. Ever since we started transmitting Tv/radio.

They either know we're here or they will. Or we're off limits. Or we're too far away. Or we're too scary. "They live in what kind of atmosphere?"

Re: Astronomers want public funds for intelligent life search

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Post by BiteCode_dev »

Revolutionisto wrote: post #24

Apparently what seems to be alien life was already observed on Earth a few years back. We just needed sufficiently good radar to see through their cloaking veils in the visible light spectrum. Cool hint as to what’s possible with technology and the laws of physics! As documented in the NY Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/16/us/politics/unidentified-... https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/26/us/politics/ufo-sighting…

While I'm excited by such news, let's not jump from "things we don't understand" to "god/magic/aliens".

For now, it's "cool event we don't know how to explain". Good enough. Life is full of that and if we try to force label on it, we miss the fun of figuring out what's going on seriously.

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Post by Revolutionisto »

BiteCode_dev wrote: post #26
Revolutionisto wrote: post #24

Apparently what seems to be alien life was already observed on Earth a few years back. We just needed sufficiently good radar to see through their cloaking veils in the visible light spectrum. Cool hint as to what’s possible with technology and the laws of physics! As documented in the NY Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/16/us/politics/unidentified-... https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/26/us/politics/ufo-sighting…

While I'm excited by such news, let's not jump from "things we don't understand" to "god/magic/aliens". For now, it's "cool event we don't know how to explain". Good enough. Life is full of that and if we try to force label on it, we miss the fun of figuring out what's going on seriously.

I certainly can’t explain exactly what it is. However, a few facts stand out:

1. Detected object moves erratically at high speeds, with exceptionally high acceleration. Controlled translational and angular acceleration of the object occur in the footage.

2. Navy pilots in both encounters reported that the object was not visible at close range but only showed up on radar, in particular only on radar that was recently updated from a version released in the 1980s.

3. Testimonies were confirmed by multiple independent pilots, cleared by the U.S. Navy, and pilots were deemed to be mentally fit as they were later deployed to active duty in the Middle East.

Those are just facts from the case. Feel free to draw your own hypotheses or conclusions. I certainly had fun doing so. :)

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Post by DrNuke »

As usual, public resources are limited, so any lobby really needs to step up their game or participate in politics actively, win elections and divert some funds from elsewhere... another way is asking a patron, you have Musk, Gates, Bezos, Zuck & Cook for a cap in hand chat... the third way is to make military believe they would have some sort of unassailable advantage, which in this case may be pitched in the form of Mr Octopus from deeeeep space telepathically sending them the secret of the ultimate weapon, a bit like The Mezga Family animated series from Hungary, fifty years ago.

Re: Astronomers want public funds for intelligent life search

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Post by [deleted] »

BiteCode_dev wrote: post #26
Revolutionisto wrote: post #24

Apparently what seems to be alien life was already observed on Earth a few years back. We just needed sufficiently good radar to see through their cloaking veils in the visible light spectrum. Cool hint as to what’s possible with technology and the laws of physics! As documented in the NY Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/16/us/politics/unidentified-... https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/26/us/politics/ufo-sighting…

While I'm excited by such news, let's not jump from "things we don't understand" to "god/magic/aliens". For now, it's "cool event we don't know how to explain". Good enough. Life is full of that and if we try to force label on it, we miss the fun of figuring out what's going on seriously.

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