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Re: I Add 3-25 Seconds of Latency to Every Site I Visit

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Post by ufmace » Fri, Feb 14, 2020, 6:34 PM UTC

300bps wrote: post #303

cbd7f73 wrote: post #285

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This sounds pretty terrible when you think about how arbitrarily websites can determine you're a "bad user", but then again I like the idea of doing this programmatically for sites I myself want to stop using. Either that or a plugin to encourage productivity. Don't block social media sites, just turn them all into slow ineffective shitty websites.

If you don't already, you should browse HN with ShowDead turned on. There are people who have been banned for years and blissfully post comments several times per week completely unaware that almost nobody is seeing their comments. Often, the comments they're posting into the black hole are indicative of why they were banned in the first place but if I see a comment that is dead and it does add to the conversation th…

I've had it on for a while. IMO, there aren't that many dead comments, and most are clearly dead for good reason. I suppose I like it, as a check that the mods aren't doing anything funny.

Then again, it's always possible that there's another, deeper "dead" in there, and only the really lousy spam shows up on "showdead". But that way lies paranoia.

Re: I Add 3-25 Seconds of Latency to Every Site I Visit

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Post by falcrist » Fri, Feb 14, 2020, 7:40 PM UTC

adambyrtek wrote: post #183

I'm a self-diagnosed completionist and I hate the infinite scroll so much that I developed a mental habit that helps me work around it. When I visit a site with infinite scroll (e.g. YouTube or new Reddit) I immediately scroll down until the first loading spinner (e.g. by pressing the End key). At this point I stop and go back up processing the items in reverse order. This might sound silly, but it gives me a sense o…

On Facebook, create a "list" of all of you're friends, bookmark the list, and use that bookmark as your portal.

The list will show you posts and shares from those people (in actual chronological order), and nothing else.

You're done scrolling when you see something you recognize from a previous visit. Congratulations! You've reached the end of Facebook. Visit again another day.

Re: I Add 3-25 Seconds of Latency to Every Site I Visit

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Post by K0SM0S » Fri, Feb 14, 2020, 9:03 PM UTC

kortex wrote: post #270

K0SM0S wrote: post #120

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I've a different take, more symmetric in time. How prodigious is it that so many of us know so many intricacies and details about so much stuff, from the aesthetic to the mechanic. We don't know if our point in the universe is to spread life or morality or simply to make it pretty, it's probably pointless to wonder beyond our very own life, but there's no denying that we are growing. We are becoming. Only by getting…

> We are becoming. Only by getting there can we know what it is. But it sure is one-of-a-kind. I have been having a bit of a rough month, one of those obdectively good on the outside view but subjectively on the inside full of self-doubt and existential angst. This just yanked me out of that headspace, for a few moments at least. Thank you :)

Much obliged :)

Re: I Add 3-25 Seconds of Latency to Every Site I Visit

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Post by zadokshi » Fri, Feb 14, 2020, 9:11 PM UTC

Hnrobert42 wrote: post #380

justinjlynn wrote: post #353

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> his mind is re-trained to expect boredom rather than drama > he will find a new person to provide drama and he will find himself drawn to you less and less often > he can’t stand boredom Unnecessarily gendered language is jarring for the reader and also, (possibly) unintentionally, sexist. The singular they/them/their is generally acceptable to use in cases such as these.

I disagree. I did not find it jarring nor did I perceive it as sexist.

Perhaps we need a browser plugin for people to detect when ‘he’ is being used as the default gender and convert it?

‘He’ worked as the default pronoun for a long time in many languages all over the world. (And still does in many languages) I find it curious how many people can be sold into the idea that a language can be considered sexist.

Re: I Add 3-25 Seconds of Latency to Every Site I Visit

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Post by b0rsuk » Fri, Feb 14, 2020, 9:40 PM UTC

blackearl wrote: post #407

b0rsuk wrote: post #406

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This is clever and an effective way, but has a downside: it's like death penalty. You're giving the person no chance to improve, and there's risk ruining experience for someone who didn't deserve it.

But it's not life and death, it's like a private club. There's not much to be gained by assuming someone will change their ways and then become a member of the club who gives back.

Not necessarily assuming, but giving a chance. A person may have a bad period in his life. Silently banning someone is as cool as reviewing a person for a job then giving him no feedback. It's ghosting. Or gossiping behind my back. Or downvoting me without explanation. You can do dick moves against me, but if I find out I'm going to badmouth you and tell everyone what a loser you are.

Re: I Add 3-25 Seconds of Latency to Every Site I Visit

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Post by elevenoh » Sat, Feb 15, 2020, 4:48 AM UTC

Antwan wrote: post #140

I ran a website for youngsters several years ago. One of the duties to maintain it was to moderate discussion boards. Some kids were difficult to manage and would not accept to be banned (via email/IP/or whatever solution) and would keep recreating profiles. Ultimately I dealt with those ppl by “greylisting” them. Added a sleep() prior each page rendering of 5 to 25 secs (actually it was more sophisticated and would…

Brilliant.

Re: I Add 3-25 Seconds of Latency to Every Site I Visit

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Post by hnuser123456 » Sat, Feb 15, 2020, 9:27 AM UTC

oska wrote: post #333

hinkley wrote: post #318

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Kinda reminiscent of advice I’ve overheard for breaking up with a narcissist: make them break up with you by being boring.

This is the 'Grey Rock' strategy: > So, how do we escape this parasitical leech without triggering his vindictive rage? Gray Rock is primarily a way of encouraging a psychopath, a stalker or other emotionally unbalanced person, to lose interest in you. It differs from No Contact in that you don’t overtly try to avoid contact with these emotional vampires. Instead, you allow contact but only give boring, monotonous re…

Interesting that this language is gendered.

Re: I Add 3-25 Seconds of Latency to Every Site I Visit

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Post by hnuser123456 » Sat, Feb 15, 2020, 9:30 AM UTC

zadokshi wrote: post #424

Hnrobert42 wrote: post #380

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I disagree. I did not find it jarring nor did I perceive it as sexist.

Perhaps we need a browser plugin for people to detect when ‘he’ is being used as the default gender and convert it? ‘He’ worked as the default pronoun for a long time in many languages all over the world. (And still does in many languages) I find it curious how many people can be sold into the idea that a language can be considered sexist.

It's not that English is sexist, it's that the passage is sexist. Using "they" as gender neutral has been around for decades.

Re: I Add 3-25 Seconds of Latency to Every Site I Visit

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Post by leshenka » Sat, Feb 15, 2020, 9:45 AM UTC

zadokshi wrote: post #424

Hnrobert42 wrote: post #380

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I disagree. I did not find it jarring nor did I perceive it as sexist.

Perhaps we need a browser plugin for people to detect when ‘he’ is being used as the default gender and convert it? ‘He’ worked as the default pronoun for a long time in many languages all over the world. (And still does in many languages) I find it curious how many people can be sold into the idea that a language can be considered sexist.

> browser plugin

They exist. I'm not sure that they can de-gender language, but they can swap word A for word B

Re: I Add 3-25 Seconds of Latency to Every Site I Visit

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Post by leshenka » Sat, Feb 15, 2020, 9:58 AM UTC

matheusmoreira wrote: post #374

floriol wrote: post #347

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It's more of an automatic thing (it's usually due to VPN) since many people connect from the same IP at near the same time. It's even worsr with TOR

Why should people be punished for using VPNs, Tor, an ISP with CGNAT? All of these should be supported regardless of how much abuse originates from them.

"Oh, you dare to oppose our surveillance? You want to block tracking scripts, fingerprinting and use VPN? You're a baaaad consuumer, we're going to correct your behavior by making your browsing experience miserable or submit to our rules and switch to Chrome"

I'm sorry if that's unnecessarily dystopian