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Google cuts jobs at cloud-computing group

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Re: Google cuts jobs at cloud-computing group

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Why would Google even take the risk of this PR, vs. just moving these people into R&D inside the Cloud group? I feel like this clickbait headline will frighten markets more than the bloated headcount expense.

Amazon lets people go regularly, I don't get what the issue is.

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What is cloud computing here? Is it some of Google services such as Mail or Drive. Or is it the cloud hosting competing with MS Azure or AWS?

What they call the Google Cloud Platform encompasses dozens of products: https://cloud.google.com/products

Re: Google cuts jobs at cloud-computing group

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In "defrags" like this, Google does not lay off people outright, it just tells them their job is going away and they have X months to find a new one within Google -- and they usually do.

I've personally been through this twice at Google. The company definitely provides a very attentive set of resources to help you find a new position within the company, but I've always been able to find a new project on my own. That said, the more flexibility you have the easier it is to find a new position. This naturally favors some people over others. In my most recent case, it ended up being a bit more challengin…

So... Like... What do you do in the interim? Not work, look for teams, and still get paid a shit ton of money? Do you do some training on the side? Work on a side project? How long does it take to find the new team?

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Is this a sign Google is not going to compete in Cloud anymore? Can't see how this is not going hurt customer confidence.

Considering all the things Google has done in the past year to hurt customer confidence in GCP, this one isn’t that bad at all.

I definitely couldn’t keep myself from wondering what kind of people run their PR, when they released a post late last year, saying that unless GCP hits the financial target $X by 2023, its funding will be noticeably cut. That was literally a release of a self-fulfilling prophecy in the wild.

Re: Google cuts jobs at cloud-computing group

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December 2019 “Google Brass Set 2023 as Deadline to Beat Amazon, Microsoft in Cloud“ https://www.theinformation.com/articles/google-brass-set-202... The clock is ticking for Google Cloud. The Google unit, which sells computing services to big companies, is under pressure from top management to pass Amazon or Microsoft—currently first and second, respectively, in cloud market share—or risk losing funding. While the co…

What are the Vegas odds that they blow the whole thing up if they don't end up #1?

Re: Google cuts jobs at cloud-computing group

#47
post #38

Why would Google even take the risk of this PR, vs. just moving these people into R&D inside the Cloud group? I feel like this clickbait headline will frighten markets more than the bloated headcount expense.

Amazon lets people go regularly, I don't get what the issue is.

Google has recently had a leak about potentially cutting cloud. Afaik Amazon hasn't.

Re: Google cuts jobs at cloud-computing group

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post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In "defrags" like this, Google does not lay off people outright, it just tells them their job is going away and they have X months to find a new one within Google -- and they usually do.

This is a very smart tactic that also, as a side effect, brings the average quality across all engineers at the company up. Smart people with desirable skills would have no problem finding another team within Google to transfer to, while bottom tier performers won’t, thus leaving Google.

It'd be interesting to study. My intuition is that over the long term it'd cut in the opposite direction--smart people will move on while bottom tier will linger as long as possible.

Re: Google cuts jobs at cloud-computing group

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post #38

Why would Google even take the risk of this PR, vs. just moving these people into R&D inside the Cloud group? I feel like this clickbait headline will frighten markets more than the bloated headcount expense.

Amazon lets people go regularly, I don't get what the issue is.

Amazon doesn't have a reputation for shutting down projects, and no one has any reason to doubt Amazon's long term ability to execute on a cloud platform.
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