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Re: Delphi's 25th Birthday

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Post by vintagedave »

SnazzZG wrote: post #83
vintagedave wrote: post #53

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We give it away now too :) There is a Community edition, where the license terms are basically that you should buy it only if you make significant revenue. Students, hobbyists, early stage startups etc - free. https://www.embarcadero.com/products/delphi/starter

From reading the product-editions page, am I misunderstanding things or is the community version unable to even access a database? https://www.embarcadero.com/products/delphi/product-editions I can't see students not needing DB access let alone 'early stage startups', without TDataSet et al, it would be effectively useless/worthless. (we're STILL using D5 where I work)

No - you can do everything in Community you can in Pro, the main paid edition. You can certainly use databases. We generally have a higher SKU for remote databases.

Re: Delphi's 25th Birthday

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Post by vintagedave »

johnsea wrote: post #96
vintagedave wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We give it away now too :) There is a Community edition, where the license terms are basically that you should buy it only if you make significant revenue. Students, hobbyists, early stage startups etc - free. https://www.embarcadero.com/products/delphi/starter

No source code, thus bad debug experience. 32 bit only. I suppose it is not easy for you (as a tool supplier).

Delphi's Community edition comes with source code and you can debug into the inbuilt libraries. And with Community you can build 32 and 64 bit apps for Windows, iOS, Android, and macOS.

Re: Delphi's 25th Birthday

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Post by haunter »

sysrpl wrote: post #43

For those interested, Free Pascal and Lazarus, the free open source implementation of Delphi, is amazing. It has an active development community and works on most all platforms. https://www.getlazarus.org/learn/tutorials/introduction/

What's the difference between this and https://www.lazarus-ide.org/?

Re: Delphi's 25th Birthday

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Post by vintagedave »

notriskfree wrote: post #56
vintagedave wrote: post #53

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We give it away now too :) There is a Community edition, where the license terms are basically that you should buy it only if you make significant revenue. Students, hobbyists, early stage startups etc - free. https://www.embarcadero.com/products/delphi/starter

Too bad you don't actually let us reinstall the software we already paid for.

Not sure what you mean there, sorry.

Re: Delphi's 25th Birthday

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Post by vintagedave »

nottorp wrote: post #113
wila wrote: post #112

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It's about ALL profit you make, not just the profit of your delphi apps. IOW, it excludes all small businesses.

And it's very well hidden. I checked their site a couple weeks ago and I didn't see it. Besides it's funny. 5000 income - 3000 delphi license leaves... not much?

On the main embarcadero.com website, hover over 'Free Tools' and click 'Delphi Community Edition'.

You're right, it is not very visible by going to the normal Delphi page. Not sure why - I think our website folk want to push people to the trial not Community. But here's the link: https://www.embarcadero.com/products/delphi/starter

Re: Delphi's 25th Birthday

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Post by notriskfree »

vintagedave wrote: post #134
notriskfree wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Too bad you don't actually let us reinstall the software we already paid for.

Not sure what you mean there, sorry.

It is quite simple. I mean that if you install the software N times; perhaps because you often switch and rebuild machines; and you do not have a current subscription; Dennis in tech support will not reset your license registration limit; and you will never be able to install the software again.

Re: Delphi's 25th Birthday

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Post by johannes1234321 »

tsss wrote: post #94
vintagedave wrote: post #61

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> I sincerely hope that someone will get it back on the right track (or has already done so ... 2020 Delphi supports five platforms, has 64-bit compilers everywhere, has modern language features, interoperates with C++ through C++Builder, and more. In the past few years especially, we've* seen both a lot of work on it, and increasing interest in using it. It's modern, and used more widely than one might realise. * "W…

I really wouldn't call it modern, unless you consider C++ modern.

C++ is modern.

Re: Delphi's 25th Birthday

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Post by exikyut »

haunter wrote: post #133
sysrpl wrote: post #43

For those interested, Free Pascal and Lazarus, the free open source implementation of Delphi, is amazing. It has an active development community and works on most all platforms. https://www.getlazarus.org/learn/tutorials/introduction/

What's the difference between this and https://www.lazarus-ide.org/ ?

(Same thing. Not sure why there's two websites.)

Re: Delphi's 25th Birthday

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Post by mobilio »

thu2111 wrote: post #127
TsomArp wrote: post #29

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Never had the problems you mention till Delphi 7.

Delphi was pretty notorious for having some sort of tick/tock quality problem, for unclear reasons. Presumably some kind of botched project management inside Borland. Delphi 1 was a mess. Delphi 2 was rock solid. Delphi 3 was a buggy mess. Delphi 4 kind of recovered things but was never as good as Delphi 2. By this point we'd figured out the pattern and skipped Delphi 5, if I recall correctly.

5 and 7 was solid...

1 was 16 bits only. 2 turn to 32 bits AFAIK.

Re: Delphi's 25th Birthday

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Post by alexeiz »

imagine99 wrote: post #47

A while ago I got to do some consulting/auditing for a couple of companies in the medical field, and looking under the hood of their infrastructure, I was surprised to see that two of their most important apps for daily use (one a scheduling/filing/CRM behemoth, one a 3D analysis program) are developed in Delphi. You couldn't tell it from the GUI but in one program directory I saw a VERY familiar ico on an exe and my…

> I'm seriously considering putting in a purchase request for the Architect edition now...

Go ahead, make Embarcadero sales department happy. Delphi has not evolved substantially in years. They pretty much keep the product on life support, milking whatever they can from support contracts. I don't see a reason to invest your money and time in Delphi unless you have a legacy application to support.

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