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Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth (Part 2)

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Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth (Part 2)

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Am I the only person that doesn't have any significant issues with Catalina? I'll admit, some of the permissions-related pop-ups are a bit annoying, but overall it's been a rather stable macOS version for me (developer, working mostly in Xcode and JetBrains IDEs).

It's an ok release. Occasional "This app wants to access your Desktop" notification is annoying, but otherwise very few problems. Also, I barely used iTunes before so can't say how much would I find missing in Music.

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth (Part 2)

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I never been an Apple fan. When iPhone launched I was skeptical, and didn't wanted one, and so on... I often argued with apple fans, and one thing that was clear to me, is that people that tried apple products around 2008 or so often would just love it, and many would become apple fans too. I used my first Mac around that time, and although I found some stuff just silly (mouse with only one button...) I overall liked…

You posed an interesting point which my mind immediately went to: How do you think 2008 apple would do against the sole of today given today’s technology?

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth (Part 2)

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I never been an Apple fan. When iPhone launched I was skeptical, and didn't wanted one, and so on... I often argued with apple fans, and one thing that was clear to me, is that people that tried apple products around 2008 or so often would just love it, and many would become apple fans too. I used my first Mac around that time, and although I found some stuff just silly (mouse with only one button...) I overall liked…

>Then the fact upgrading it's RAM was unecessarily hard and expensive and needed urgently

Isn't it impossible? It's soldered to the board.

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth (Part 2)

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I never been an Apple fan. When iPhone launched I was skeptical, and didn't wanted one, and so on... I often argued with apple fans, and one thing that was clear to me, is that people that tried apple products around 2008 or so often would just love it, and many would become apple fans too. I used my first Mac around that time, and although I found some stuff just silly (mouse with only one button...) I overall liked…

Choosing a wrong tool (fashion and status product) for the job (science) is hardly a thing against Apple's products.

And I hate Apple products too.

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth (Part 2)

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I was already using zsh and somehow the MacOS upgrade path for making zsh the new default shell deleted my shell history. This was a short term blow to productivity since I had only made external notes on about half the difficult command line tasks I’d completed since getting this MacBook in 2017. How do people generally go about backing up this file? Or do most people not

> How do people generally go about backing up this file? Or do most people not

If you use Time Machine it should be backed up.

I have two hard drives I rotate on and off my computer regularly for Time Machine for redundancy, it’s always worked well so far.

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth (Part 2)

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DOOM! DOOM! SO MUCH DOOOOM!

So different story here: using Catalina on two Macs since the betas - zero issues. Really, Zero Issues. It all just works. I use it 8+ hours a day - Browsers, terminal work, Mail.app, lots of third-party applications, Xcode.

Ok fine, Xcode can be a PITA sometimes. But Catalina .. my workhorse since the betas. Never lets me down.

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth (Part 2)

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post #99
post #11

Am I the only person that doesn't have any significant issues with Catalina? I'll admit, some of the permissions-related pop-ups are a bit annoying, but overall it's been a rather stable macOS version for me (developer, working mostly in Xcode and JetBrains IDEs).

For me, Catalina worked fine since I’ve installed Beta 2 last summer. Even the usual suspects, VMWare, Vagrant/VirtualBox and Homebrew survived the update just fine. I see no crashes (at least not more than the usual once-every-two-months need to reboot), nor other weirdness. Compared to Mojave, even the random Bluetooth disconnects I had with my Magic Trackpad stopped happening. Of course this is total non-news and…

Same for me - I'm so glad those bluetooth problems have been solved! On Mojave, I had to plug in the lightning cable every few hours to reconnect the trackpad.

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth (Part 2)

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post #11

Am I the only person that doesn't have any significant issues with Catalina? I'll admit, some of the permissions-related pop-ups are a bit annoying, but overall it's been a rather stable macOS version for me (developer, working mostly in Xcode and JetBrains IDEs).

It's funny, at least here on HN, I find the sky is often falling when it come to Apple but my personal experience is usually quite different. I don't necessarily disagree with the specific complaints, but they seem to take on an importance here that feels overblown.

The keyboard thing is a legitimate issue. When you can’t type a key, it’s a problem.

That said, I had been a lifelong PC user until 2015. I decided to buy a Macbook, the first model to use the reviled keyboard. Everything I read online said it wasn’t worth paying a premium for. Nothing I read said buy it. I bought it, and it replaced my 3 monitor PC with no loss of productivity. Everything I did ran better than I had expected (no gaming.) It was a vastly better experience than the Surface Pros I had used prior.

You have to make your own judgements. Most people that used the old keyboard hate the new one. MacOS has issues, but so does Windows 10. I’m comfortable using Linux, but that is a whole other dimension of complexity on keeping everything working (but still vastly better than it was trying to use Linux as a consumer OS in the early 2000s.)

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth (Part 2)

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One of the killers for me is the dropped support for 32-bit binaries. I don't have a gaming box, so I play Steam games on my MacBook. Lots of the games I want to play (e.g. all the BioShocks) are 32-bit.

I understood when they removed PPC support via Rosetta from Intel OS X (Even though the tech pretty much felt like magic). But I don't get the justification for ditching all that legacy 32bit software.

If it hasn't been upgraded yet, then it's never going to be. The Mac isn't like iOS, it's pretty niche. You can't just throw all the software under the bus every few years and sit back smugly expecting either developers to fix all their old software or the market to create new software to fill the gap.

No 32bit Mac apps are going to be replaced with 64bit SwiftUI native apps, they're going to be replaced with Javascript apps in wrappers and your platform is going to be worse off than it would be if the dusty "old" 32bit cocoa app still ran.

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