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Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth (Part 2)

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Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth (Part 2)

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post #11

Am I the only person that doesn't have any significant issues with Catalina? I'll admit, some of the permissions-related pop-ups are a bit annoying, but overall it's been a rather stable macOS version for me (developer, working mostly in Xcode and JetBrains IDEs).

No significant issues with Catalina here.

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth (Part 2)

#32
post #7

Also worth reading John Gruber's complaints, over and above bugs: > But I don’t know a single expert Mac user who is not seriously annoyed by the heavy-handed security design of Catalina. Not one. Every single expert user I know is annoyed. That is a bad place for MacOS to be. MacOS 10.16 needs a serious course correction to fix this, and if 10.16 goes the opposite way — growing even more heavy-handed in restricting…

One thing that drives me nuts is the way you get a security popup when you're working in a terminal. So you're ssh'd into a mac, you try to do something (like xcodebuild or whatever), and then it just sits there doing nothing while it waits for you to put in a password on a window you can't see.

It's not exactly new in Catalina, but it's worse. Apple just does not even think about the fact that you might want to do things remotely or automatically.

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth (Part 2)

#33

I use Unity3D and everytime there is a new macOS update, I always procrastinate it for a year at least. This year around, I was very tempted to update it, early last week. Looking at this feed, I ain't going to do it. I have an iOS app to publish & can't do anything stupid.

I have a similar attitude. At the end of the day, MacOS updates have zero chance of helping me get work done faster, yet they have low but non-trivial chance of halting progress on work for a few hours due to obscure issues.

There just seems no upside to upgrading - I just wait until either I'm forced to or starting a completely new project just to pay off a tech debt of sorts. I'll caveat this by saying I don't work in the Apple ecosystem so don't have any dependencies there, the tools I run are orthogonal to MacOS specific features, so I don't really care about them per se.

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth (Part 2)

#35

I use Unity3D and everytime there is a new macOS update, I always procrastinate it for a year at least. This year around, I was very tempted to update it, early last week. Looking at this feed, I ain't going to do it. I have an iOS app to publish & can't do anything stupid.

Me too, I've been using Unity for over 10 years.

Having said that, I simultaneously develop on Mac & PC and right now don't have an iOS project - so I took the leap. No issues with Catalina with Unity. However there are a few other minor annoyances; finder seems a bit unstable with network drives (force restart is your friend), time machine corrupts NAS backups, and the occasional mess-up with my dual monitor setup. Other than that it's been fine FYI.

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth (Part 2)

#36
I was already using zsh and somehow the MacOS upgrade path for making zsh the new default shell deleted my shell history.

This was a short term blow to productivity since I had only made external notes on about half the difficult command line tasks I’d completed since getting this MacBook in 2017.

How do people generally go about backing up this file? Or do most people not

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth (Part 2)

#38
post #4

I've actually kept postponing upgrading to Catalina (I'm still on Mojave) because I want to keep iTunes. I have a lot of stuff there I don't really want scattered all over the place, and I always felt iTunes was underrated.

There's a Mac app called Retroactive [1] that enables you to run iTunes (and Aperture) on macOS Catalina.

[1] https://github.com/cormiertyshawn895/Retroactive

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth (Part 2)

#39

I was already using zsh and somehow the MacOS upgrade path for making zsh the new default shell deleted my shell history. This was a short term blow to productivity since I had only made external notes on about half the difficult command line tasks I’d completed since getting this MacBook in 2017. How do people generally go about backing up this file? Or do most people not

I use several tabs and histories override each other, meaning I could never count on a command being present in the history. I’ve always been told an experienced dev has a folder with txt notes, so that is what I did.

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth (Part 2)

#40
I’ve put off upgrading until (at least) the Mail issues are fixed. I have zero trust that Apple is even prioritizing those kinds of fixes, and simply can’t risk the disruption of having my machine not work in some subtly critical way.

(In contrast, my Windows machines are stubbornly reliable, even the one running Insider builds. Which is a wild inversion of the reasons I started https://taoofmac.com 16 years ago...)

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