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Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth (Part 2)

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Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth (Part 2)

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post #11

Am I the only person that doesn't have any significant issues with Catalina? I'll admit, some of the permissions-related pop-ups are a bit annoying, but overall it's been a rather stable macOS version for me (developer, working mostly in Xcode and JetBrains IDEs).

I haven't had any issues, and I appreciate being asked for permissions rather than assuming them. It makes me feel safer even if I haven't yet encountered a situation where I said no.

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth (Part 2)

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post #4

I've actually kept postponing upgrading to Catalina (I'm still on Mojave) because I want to keep iTunes. I have a lot of stuff there I don't really want scattered all over the place, and I always felt iTunes was underrated.

How are you going to solve this? I'm in a similar position, having several music apps I bought a while ago that won't work in Catalina. But I have to upgrade because it's my development machine. So far my plan is to upgrade my MacBook Pro to continue develop software, and leave my Mac Pro with Mojave to compose music. I wonder how others deal with this.

Does the license allow you to virtualize Mojave as long as it’s on Mac hardware?

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth (Part 2)

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post #7

Also worth reading John Gruber's complaints, over and above bugs: > But I don’t know a single expert Mac user who is not seriously annoyed by the heavy-handed security design of Catalina. Not one. Every single expert user I know is annoyed. That is a bad place for MacOS to be. MacOS 10.16 needs a serious course correction to fix this, and if 10.16 goes the opposite way — growing even more heavy-handed in restricting…

I'm kind of OK with "macOS Vista."

I've wanted more restrictive and granular permissions for a long time. Web browsers don't need unrestricted access to the entire file system. Neither do games. Preview doesn't need to access the microphone. Word doesn't usually need to record the screen. PowerPoint should not be sending email or accessing the camera. TextEdit doesn't need access to my contacts or calendar. And I don't want any of these programs interrupting me with stupid notifications. Maybe some people want to give these extra permissions, but I want them to be off by default.

My complaint is that permissions don't go far enough; for example I never want to be interrupted by software update notifications, but there's no way to turn them off.

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth (Part 2)

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post #11

Am I the only person that doesn't have any significant issues with Catalina? I'll admit, some of the permissions-related pop-ups are a bit annoying, but overall it's been a rather stable macOS version for me (developer, working mostly in Xcode and JetBrains IDEs).

No Problem here. I use for work and personal. Got zero issues that I can think off that weren't there in other versions

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth (Part 2)

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post #11

Am I the only person that doesn't have any significant issues with Catalina? I'll admit, some of the permissions-related pop-ups are a bit annoying, but overall it's been a rather stable macOS version for me (developer, working mostly in Xcode and JetBrains IDEs).

Not sure what the issue is either, once you add the necessary permissions for your apps, it doesn't ask again.

Only complaint is Apple seem to ignore long-standing bugs that have been there for years, like monitors switching around every time you dock your MacBook. They should make a Snow Leopard-like release and clean out their bug tracker.

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth (Part 2)

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Yeah, there's been some pain to upgrade to Catalina, but for me as a developer it was worth it, just because of Project Catalyst. Also, they were making some serious (and necessary) changes to the iCloud / File API, and I would have been very surprised if that went without lots of bugs ... To be honest, the transition went much smoother than I expected.

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth (Part 2)

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The biggest issue I have with Mac upgrades is that for me, it doesn't cache the upgrade. My internet is weak, not as great in speed and bandwidth as US so it downloads 4gb and then fails. Then it starts from 0 sgain. I expected Apple of all companies to cache downloads. Frankly, it caches only the first 500MB. I do not know why. Any workarounds?

You might want to give "macOS Patcher" a try. http://dosdude1.com/software.html

It's main purpose is to allow for running macOS on unsupported Macs, but it also can download the original unmodified version. I've only used the unpatched Mojave version myself and I have no idea how well it supports slow/unstable connections.

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth (Part 2)

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post #11

Am I the only person that doesn't have any significant issues with Catalina? I'll admit, some of the permissions-related pop-ups are a bit annoying, but overall it's been a rather stable macOS version for me (developer, working mostly in Xcode and JetBrains IDEs).

It's running great on my newly-built Hackintosh. I'm still scared of upgrading my personal and work MBPs though.

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth (Part 2)

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post #11

Am I the only person that doesn't have any significant issues with Catalina? I'll admit, some of the permissions-related pop-ups are a bit annoying, but overall it's been a rather stable macOS version for me (developer, working mostly in Xcode and JetBrains IDEs).

Nothing here. It’s been as easy an upgrade as I can remember. My company’s IT team kept sending emails not to upgrade but I haven’t had an issue. I think they mostly were tired of dealing with early release headaches from Chrome not asking for permission to control the whole screen for sharing. Google Meet worked just fine with Safari so I never noticed that problem.

I do however dislike Music. I added iTunes back with Retroactive

https://github.com/cormiertyshawn895/Retroactive

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