Running Pure Django Projects on Google App Engine

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Post by mbowcock » Thu, Feb 17, 2011, 2:55 PM UTC

Running Pure Django Projects on Google App Engine
code.google.com

Re: Running Pure Django Projects on Google App Engine

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Post by micrypt » Thu, Feb 17, 2011, 3:36 PM UTC

Prior discussion - http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1955387

Re: Running Pure Django Projects on Google App Engine

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Post by andrewgodwin » Thu, Feb 17, 2011, 4:58 PM UTC

I'm not sure that GAE is the ideal environment to run Django in - the whole reason it scales is because it enforces a certain way of doing things (nonrelational datastore, no long-running processes, no local storage).

General Django PaaS will probably be 'nicer' with the various less-restricted options that are springing up (be that mine, ep.io, or others, like djangy, gondor.io, apphosted, or the several others I forget), since those tend to lessen up on the "it must scale" aspect and focus more on making the 99% majority of sites (i.e. medium sized or smaller) work well.

Re: Running Pure Django Projects on Google App Engine

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Post by tommyg » Thu, Feb 17, 2011, 6:02 PM UTC

I am currently using Django Nonrel with mongodb with very good success for some client work. It's actually deployed to AWS not App Engine, but the code between the two is virtually identical. AWS was chosen for video processing requiremets. The tools and short cuts django provides like the automatically generated admin have made the project viable. I haven't seen the db-indexer project before, but looking forward to checking it out.

Re: Running Pure Django Projects on Google App Engine

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Post by Kilimanjaro » Thu, Feb 17, 2011, 6:53 PM UTC

I've been using AppEngine for years and I am very happy with webapp, easier and simpler.

Re: Running Pure Django Projects on Google App Engine

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Post by civilian » Thu, Feb 17, 2011, 7:26 PM UTC

Minor thing, could we have the link go to http://code.google.com/intl/nl/appengine/articles/django-non... instead of http://code.google.com/intl/nl/appengine/articles/django-non... ?

Re: Running Pure Django Projects on Google App Engine

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Post by mbowcock » Thu, Feb 17, 2011, 7:41 PM UTC

civilian wrote: post #6

Minor thing, could we have the link go to http://code.google.com/intl/nl/appengine/articles/django-non... instead of http://code.google.com/intl/nl/appengine/articles/django-non... ?

I missed that when I copied the link. I can't edit it now.

Re: Running Pure Django Projects on Google App Engine

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Post by StavrosK » Thu, Feb 17, 2011, 7:50 PM UTC

andrewgodwin wrote: post #3

I'm not sure that GAE is the ideal environment to run Django in - the whole reason it scales is because it enforces a certain way of doing things (nonrelational datastore, no long-running processes, no local storage). General Django PaaS will probably be 'nicer' with the various less-restricted options that are springing up (be that mine, ep.io, or others, like djangy, gondor.io, apphosted, or the several others I fo…

I don't think so, I've developed a number of apps with Django on App Engine and, as long as you've developed a bit at the lower level and know the limitations, Django is a very good fit. The guys who wrote Django-nonrel did a very good job, pretty much everything that doesn't do any wild joins will work out of the box.

Overall, I am very very happy with Django on GAE and develop with it, even though I've developed with Flask as well. With microframeworks I generally find that you need to reinvent many of the things that Django already provides.

Your only objection that I can see is really the fact that the ORM joins, so don't. As long as you keep that in mind, everything else is transparent because it's really the same as what other hosts offer (memcache, email, tasks, etc).