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I Add 3-25 Seconds of Latency to Every Site I Visit

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Re: I Add 3-25 Seconds of Latency to Every Site I Visit

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Post by HerpDerpLerp »

heartbeats wrote: post #272
MaulingMonkey wrote: post #267

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Forcing you to query IA at least reduces the frequency of feedback, as they're taking snapshots instead of giving a live feed. You could also shadowban IA. You can also do things like guess based on IP address or browser fingerprinting, or require a login from various IP ranges. Of course your main point - that this is all terribly imperfect and won't stop a determined, sophisticated user, who has realized what's hap…

The feedback doesn't have to be very fast. If I'm botting correctly, my accounts will almost never be banned. Even once every 24 hours will be more than enough. IA was just an example, and Tor would be easier. But anyway, I think it shows the flaw in doing so: > You could also shadowban IA. If the spammer manages to get all the IPs hellbanned just by looking at things, he gets more eyeballs on his spam. My point is,…

I guess we know who gets banned from places!

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Post by hellonoko »

karatestomp wrote: post #102
vnorilo wrote: post #95

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I found a single origin espresso that I really like. One time I bought a bag of beans it occurred to me that requiring coffee beans from a specific farm in Rhuanda sounds like something a king might do. Even my bog standard middle class luxury feels wildly excessive sometimes.

Our homes are not just like a king's palace, when it comes to comforts, entertainment, and petty luxuries, but like a king's palace in the middle of a once-in-a-generation, no-expense-spared festival. But multiplied by 100. And they're like that 24/7, year-round. No wonder we have trouble falling asleep.

You might like the book: At Home: A Short History of Private Life, it talks about just this idea.

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Post by 300bps »

cbd7f73 wrote: post #285
anw wrote: post #266

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This reminds me of the old VBulletin plugin "Miserable Users"[0]. We also had a community suffering from this problem (during the early 2000's). Bans would take care of a lot of problem users, but would just give energy to those truly out for blood, troll, bored, or very immature. We had one user get banned over a dozen times while we tried banning IPs, name regex or anything else we could think of. Finally, like you…

This sounds pretty terrible when you think about how arbitrarily websites can determine you're a "bad user", but then again I like the idea of doing this programmatically for sites I myself want to stop using. Either that or a plugin to encourage productivity. Don't block social media sites, just turn them all into slow ineffective shitty websites.

If you don't already, you should browse HN with ShowDead turned on. There are people who have been banned for years and blissfully post comments several times per week completely unaware that almost nobody is seeing their comments.

Often, the comments they're posting into the black hole are indicative of why they were banned in the first place but if I see a comment that is dead and it does add to the conversation then I vouch for it which un-deads it.

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Post by kcvv »

300bps wrote: post #303
cbd7f73 wrote: post #285

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This sounds pretty terrible when you think about how arbitrarily websites can determine you're a "bad user", but then again I like the idea of doing this programmatically for sites I myself want to stop using. Either that or a plugin to encourage productivity. Don't block social media sites, just turn them all into slow ineffective shitty websites.

If you don't already, you should browse HN with ShowDead turned on. There are people who have been banned for years and blissfully post comments several times per week completely unaware that almost nobody is seeing their comments. Often, the comments they're posting into the black hole are indicative of why they were banned in the first place but if I see a comment that is dead and it does add to the conversation th…

How do you turn on the ShowDead settings? I don't see that in my settings page..

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Post by Gracana »

kcvv wrote: post #304
300bps wrote: post #303

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If you don't already, you should browse HN with ShowDead turned on. There are people who have been banned for years and blissfully post comments several times per week completely unaware that almost nobody is seeing their comments. Often, the comments they're posting into the black hole are indicative of why they were banned in the first place but if I see a comment that is dead and it does add to the conversation th…

How do you turn on the ShowDead settings? I don't see that in my settings page..

Between email and noprocrast?

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Post by adrianN »

300bps wrote: post #303
cbd7f73 wrote: post #285

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This sounds pretty terrible when you think about how arbitrarily websites can determine you're a "bad user", but then again I like the idea of doing this programmatically for sites I myself want to stop using. Either that or a plugin to encourage productivity. Don't block social media sites, just turn them all into slow ineffective shitty websites.

If you don't already, you should browse HN with ShowDead turned on. There are people who have been banned for years and blissfully post comments several times per week completely unaware that almost nobody is seeing their comments. Often, the comments they're posting into the black hole are indicative of why they were banned in the first place but if I see a comment that is dead and it does add to the conversation th…

I browse HN with showdead. I encounter very few hidden comments and I regularly vouch for comments by new accounts that were apparently caught in some kind of spam filter.

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Post by Snetry »

snthd wrote: post #50

See also https://www.xkcd.com/862/ 's alt text > After years of trying various methods, I broke this habit by pitting my impatience against my laziness. I decoupled the action and the neurological reward by setting up a simple 30-second delay I had to wait through, in which I couldn't do anything else, before any new page or chat client would load (and only allowed one to run at once). The urge to check all those sit…

I found the shutting down solution to be quite useful actually

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Post by aj7 »

nebalee wrote: post #178
Antwan wrote: post #140

I ran a website for youngsters several years ago. One of the duties to maintain it was to moderate discussion boards. Some kids were difficult to manage and would not accept to be banned (via email/IP/or whatever solution) and would keep recreating profiles. Ultimately I dealt with those ppl by “greylisting” them. Added a sleep() prior each page rendering of 5 to 25 secs (actually it was more sophisticated and would…

Another sinister way of doing this is having users solve captchas in order to comment and keeping a badness score of the troublemakers. Then pretend they failed the captchas at a rate proportionally to their score.

For about six months, the Fidelity mobile site gave false indications of incorrect username/password on purpose. No idea why they did this.

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Post by zo1 »

jjoonathan wrote: post #257
Tenoke wrote: post #253

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Not using Chrome?

Is it just me or has the web's compatibility with Firefox taken a nosedive recently? It used to just be my employer's HR software that was chrome-only, but in the last year my power utility website, apartment complex website, and even major websites like https://www.deviantart.com/ (which I was trying to visit just 10 minutes ago) have broken in Firefox but not chrome. Badly, too. These aren't "the layout is differen…

We recently had some "FE devs" make a spiffy new SPA for some internal product. When I got to testing it on Firefox cause that's my main browser, I got a blank white page.

I asked them and they're like "yeah, it only works on chrome-based browsers". Or something to that effect. It's not like some CSS was wonky, or a bug somewhere... No, the default process of them building the SPA somehow yielded a completely non-functioning app for Firefox.

Re: I Add 3-25 Seconds of Latency to Every Site I Visit

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Post by Thorrez »

Linus Sebastian says that making his phone slower to open made him enjoy it more[1]. One easy way to make your phone slower to unlock is to give it a long password, this has the additional benefit of making your phone more secure.

[1] https://youtu.be/WGZh-xP-q7A?t=305

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