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Re: Decentralized Naming and Certificate Authority

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Post by Ajedi32 »

danShumway wrote: post #109
hpfr wrote: post #101

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> How do I do that if other people's bids can contain blinds? You're right, you can't. I'm not sure what "just make sure your bid is greater than the highest existing total" means when blinds are in the mix. > If I'm China and I want to censor this system, what stops me from monitoring the auctions and throwing a measly $2000 at any domain name that sounds critical of me in any way? Nothing, but there are quite a few…

> Nothing, but there are quite a few(TM) domain names. Everything that isn't an ICANN TLD (or a future ICANN TLD, I guess--not sure how that would work) is available. I don't think a government could reliably censor all objectionable TLD's. If I understand correctly (and maybe I don't), the domain being auctioned is public. With the current system, a government can't censor everything because doing so would require t…

> With public auctions, my understanding is they only need to pay attention to the domains someone actually tries to register. So if I'm China, I don't need to preemptively register the entire space of `/tiananmen/g`. I only need to download the list of auctions every day and run a regex on that finite space.

Sure, but since it doesn't cost anything to lose a bid (I believe?) if anyone tried that it'd be pretty easy to force them to spend a _lot_ of money buying domains that they have no intention of using. It also wouldn't stop anyone from registering `tiananmen.massacre`, as you noted.

Re: Decentralized Naming and Certificate Authority

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Post by Proven »

aSplash0fDerp wrote: post #81

Seeing how Internet 1.0 is getting cannibalized by big business and governments, I'm hoping to see HS and other orgs start working on an offline mesh network and devise a completely new system of information distribution. Humanity appears to be changing the public park infrastructure of the Internet into a paid-access theme park, with [them/someone else] writing the rules. It doesn't look like the righteous, tech ill…

> Seeing how Internet 1.0 is getting cannibalized by big business and governments

How is it cannibalized? It is bigger and cheaper than ever before. To your anti-business comment, HS runs on an ICO powered platform. Isn't that business? It may not be big business but it certainly wouldn't be small if it were to replace a TLD.

> The Internet used to be filled with raw data, but in the age of centralized, walled garden curating, the essence of the information superhighway has been lost.

You mean when it was small enough so that it could be funded entirely by taxpayer money?

> It was truly something special and felt like the world (of knowledge) was at your fingertips (instead of something slimey on the other end).

Sadly that hasn't ended - governments are still burning pubic money like before, the only thing is now it's a drop in the. bucket. Ideally that spending would go down to zero but we have to be patient.

Re: Decentralized Naming and Certificate Authority

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Post by tasuki »

troquerre wrote: post #95

PSA if you had over 15 followers on GitHub by August 2018 you were likely included in the Handshake airdrop. Basically they developed a way to give each dev in the airdrop 4662 coins each (worth a lot since current market price is $0.50[1]). These instructions walk through what the claiming process is like, which can only be done after block 2016 in a day or so https://namebase.io/airdrop . [1] https://namebase.io

Tieshun, I fulfill those requirements, submitted the claim, was told the Handshake coins would appear in Namebase within half an hour, and... they didn't. The experience was smooth, except for the last part, which was a little underwhelming.

Time to read more about Handshake I guess?

Re: Decentralized Naming and Certificate Authority

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Post by troquerre »

tasuki wrote: post #123
troquerre wrote: post #95

PSA if you had over 15 followers on GitHub by August 2018 you were likely included in the Handshake airdrop. Basically they developed a way to give each dev in the airdrop 4662 coins each (worth a lot since current market price is $0.50[1]). These instructions walk through what the claiming process is like, which can only be done after block 2016 in a day or so https://namebase.io/airdrop . [1] https://namebase.io

Tieshun, I fulfill those requirements, submitted the claim, was told the Handshake coins would appear in Namebase within half an hour, and... they didn't. The experience was smooth, except for the last part, which was a little underwhelming. Time to read more about Handshake I guess?

Sorry I should've made this more clear. Txs aren't enabled until block 2016 (in less than 6 hours). The claiming process will only work after then. If you try again after block 2016 it should work! It's currently on block 1970 https://hnsxplorer.com/

Re: Decentralized Naming and Certificate Authority

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Post by tasuki »

troquerre wrote: post #124
tasuki wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tieshun, I fulfill those requirements, submitted the claim, was told the Handshake coins would appear in Namebase within half an hour, and... they didn't. The experience was smooth, except for the last part, which was a little underwhelming. Time to read more about Handshake I guess?

Sorry I should've made this more clear. Txs aren't enabled until block 2016 (in less than 6 hours). The claiming process will only work after then. If you try again after block 2016 it should work! It's currently on block 1970 https://hnsxplorer.com/

It was clearly written in the non-interactive part of the instructions. Apparently I can't read. Thank you for your patience!

Re: Decentralized Naming and Certificate Authority

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Post by tasuki »

SkyMarshal wrote: post #119
stubish wrote: post #111

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Interesting they are soliciting personalities, rather than infrastructure, sysadmins and others who might have more power to push Handshake. Leaves out a lot of the Great Old Ones too, like say a big hunk of Debian and Ubuntu developers. Or Firefox devs, who have a lot of power here. Lots of projects predate Github. When I looked, I'm honestly surprised how many followers I have there - why would you follow me person…

It’s not soliciting personalities but rather developers who have made things useful to at least 15 other developers, at least on Github. They also needed exposed public keys to airdrop to, which limited the airdrop to Github and the WoT strong set.

> who have made things useful to at least 15 other developers

Then why not look how many stars one's repos have? That seems a much better metric to me.

A friend of mine has hundreds of stars on their repos but only 30 followers. I have around a hundred stars on my repos but only 20 followers. Conversely, I've seen people who are into networking, have a lot of GitHub followers, and no meaningful repos at all.

Re: Decentralized Naming and Certificate Authority

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Post by troquerre »

tasuki wrote: post #125
troquerre wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry I should've made this more clear. Txs aren't enabled until block 2016 (in less than 6 hours). The claiming process will only work after then. If you try again after block 2016 it should work! It's currently on block 1970 https://hnsxplorer.com/

It was clearly written in the non-interactive part of the instructions. Apparently I can't read. Thank you for your patience!

Well either way, we’re passed block 2016 now so you can claim! Were you able to try it out?

Re: Decentralized Naming and Certificate Authority

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Post by jspaetzel »

SkyMarshal wrote: post #117
jspaetzel wrote: post #107

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Well. That's a nice publicity stunt. lets see how they get their investment back. It's nice that this project does some good. https://github.com/handshake-org/hsd/blob/56c83ca7344def512e... So if I read this right Creators get: 102mi coins Sponsors get: 102mi coins they are airdropping about 952mi coins to users on github to the tune of 4,246 per user. So they're collecting about 20% of all coins initially dropped. T…

>how an end user will use these names It’s aimed at open source developers who will be able to figure out how to use the system, not mainstream non-tech normies. As evidenced by the large airdrop to Github.

Most people who own domain names and run websites are mainstream non-tech normies.
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