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I Add 3-25 Seconds of Latency to Every Site I Visit

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Re: I Add 3-25 Seconds of Latency to Every Site I Visit

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Post by youerbt »

kick wrote: post #224
youerbt wrote: post #214

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then you did the same for your mobile users, degrading their experience until they use an app or leave.

'jedberg hasn't worked at reddit for years, it's pretty ridiculous to use "you" and "your" there. Further, he was never in marketing, he was basically just a sysadmin. There's really no charitable interpretation of your comment that isn't just "Hey, let's yell at a guy who isn't currently and has literally never been in a position to where he might have been responsible for Annoyance !"

I just wanted a jab at reddit, cuz this week I can't even browse it because "this community is available in the app" (after years of marke... mental abuse of asking me to use an app). Nothing against the guy, he used "we", I used "you", I'm sure he is a cool guy, and I hope its the charitable interpretation.

Re: I Add 3-25 Seconds of Latency to Every Site I Visit

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Post by tomrod »

kick wrote: post #225
hkyeti wrote: post #218

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reddit is full of dark patterns to encourage mobile app installation.

How is this relevant to his comment? It seems like a non-sequitur.

Parent comment was a out implementing a dark nudge to encourage behavior. Next comment was from someone who worked for a company that does it. Next comment was about another poorly implemented dark pattern at same site. Comment is on point. Relevance identified.

Re: I Add 3-25 Seconds of Latency to Every Site I Visit

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Post by dclusin »

CreepGin wrote: post #230

My household has too many devices to setup individually. Anyone knows a good router to do this on? My router can blacklist ips and urls, but cannot just add latency to them.

Probably openwrt would be the way to go. It’s basically Linux. I don’t know offhand how to do this in Linux but I suspect there’s a solution easily available.

Re: I Add 3-25 Seconds of Latency to Every Site I Visit

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Post by karatestomp »

inopinatus wrote: post #226
heurist wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have found the facade of control that technology presents is easily punctured by a few days outside of cell range in rugged wilderness. Being alone in emergency situations also reveals our total lack of control over the whims of fate. Basically, when it comes to dealing with substantial, immediate personal problems technology is still pretty useless.

“Stories set in the Culture in which Things Went Wrong tended to start with humans losing or forgetting or deliberately leaving behind their terminal. It was a conventional opening, the equivalent of straying off the path in the wild woods in one age, or a car breaking down at night on a lonely road in another.” —— Iain M. Banks, The Player of Games .

Reminds me of how modern horror movies mostly have to one of 1) be set before cell phones, 2) dispose of cell phones somehow, or 3) be in some way about cell phones.

Re: I Add 3-25 Seconds of Latency to Every Site I Visit

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Post by vibrafox »

Romanulus wrote: post #117
vibrafox wrote: post #112

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A good quote I don't have a source on: you do not rise to the level of your ambitions, you fall to the level of your systems. Willpower is finite, but you can maximize it with systems like this.

Makes me think of the quote (paraphrased): "Your reach should always exceed your grasp." To me it feels like you are tamping down your maximum reach.

I tried that for a long time and didn't get anywhere. Building a safety net of systems/habits raises the floor for the inevitable slips back down.

Re: I Add 3-25 Seconds of Latency to Every Site I Visit

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Post by megous »

CreepGin wrote: post #230

My household has too many devices to setup individually. Anyone knows a good router to do this on? My router can blacklist ips and urls, but cannot just add latency to them.

My MikroTik router has traffic shaping fairly easily configurable. I have used it at times for the similar purpose. Though, if you know how to disable something, you eventually will.

If you want to know how it works in Linux:

https://lartc.org/howto/lartc.qdisc.html

Re: I Add 3-25 Seconds of Latency to Every Site I Visit

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Post by inopinatus »

wcoenen wrote: post #229
taurath wrote: post #99

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Out of curiosity, what platform is that?

Possibly the spymesat app. If you create an account and log in, apparently you can select satellites and task it to take images for anywhere between $500 to $3300.

That is indeed the app I used. Full answer of which orbital platform once my current aircraft has landed.

Re: I Add 3-25 Seconds of Latency to Every Site I Visit

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Post by aembleton »

adambyrtek wrote: post #183

I'm a self-diagnosed completionist and I hate the infinite scroll so much that I developed a mental habit that helps me work around it. When I visit a site with infinite scroll (e.g. YouTube or new Reddit) I immediately scroll down until the first loading spinner (e.g. by pressing the End key). At this point I stop and go back up processing the items in reverse order. This might sound silly, but it gives me a sense o…

I just don't scroll down and accept that what I can see on my screen is all that is worth looking at.

Re: I Add 3-25 Seconds of Latency to Every Site I Visit

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Post by jedberg »

youerbt wrote: post #231
kick wrote: post #224

Earlier quoted context omitted.

'jedberg hasn't worked at reddit for years, it's pretty ridiculous to use "you" and "your" there. Further, he was never in marketing, he was basically just a sysadmin. There's really no charitable interpretation of your comment that isn't just "Hey, let's yell at a guy who isn't currently and has literally never been in a position to where he might have been responsible for Annoyance !"

I just wanted a jab at reddit, cuz this week I can't even browse it because "this community is available in the app" (after years of marke... mental abuse of asking me to use an app). Nothing against the guy, he used "we", I used "you", I'm sure he is a cool guy, and I hope its the charitable interpretation.

FWIW, I feel your pain as a daily user of the site myself. I hold no ill will against you for taking it out on me. When I left I specifically said that users can continue to blame me for all problems. :)

I wasn't aware that some communities are now limited to the app only. I haven't run into any yet.

But that sucks.

Re: I Add 3-25 Seconds of Latency to Every Site I Visit

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Post by osn9363739 »

Romanulus wrote: post #97

I get the sentiment, but I do not agree at all... similar to putting fences around all the coastlines of the world, I would rather just teach my children to swim. I had to go back and make sure what was being said was actually the case which now makes me question what one does with all that latency time... just sit and breath and try not to totally freak out? I don't want to come off as too crass on this, but this ty…

I think there are a few parts to this.

Firstly, if you are addicted it's too late, your willpower is shot. Blocking a site to retrain yourself is a good idea.

Humans are creatures of habit. If putting up a temporary fence forces you to build the habit of swimming between the flags - when you take away the fence your monkey brain is hopefully stuck with the good habits.

It's also a single person, vs a billion dollar industry that is spending a shit tonne of money trying to get them addicted.

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