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I Add 3-25 Seconds of Latency to Every Site I Visit

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Post by Retric »

heurist wrote: post #200
inopinatus wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A few weeks ago, in support of a customer's new facilities, I tasked a satellite imaging platform to take a photograph of Dubbo, Australia, using an app on my iPhone. Placing the instruction took less than two minutes, the longest part of which was downloading the app. The processed image was downloaded to my device before close of business that same day. Against a glowing surface, my hand describes a complex sigil,…

I have found the facade of control that technology presents is easily punctured by a few days outside of cell range in rugged wilderness. Being alone in emergency situations also reveals our total lack of control over the whims of fate. Basically, when it comes to dealing with substantial, immediate personal problems technology is still pretty useless.

The amount of lifesaving assistance available to the average person with a single phone call is staggering. Being outside of cellphone demonstrates the utility not futility is such assistance.

It’s not even limited to medical assistance. A friends floor collapsed and a single phone call made the difference between an unpleasant day and an agonizing death.

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Post by photojosh »

LeifCarrotson wrote: post #98
inopinatus wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A few weeks ago, in support of a customer's new facilities, I tasked a satellite imaging platform to take a photograph of Dubbo, Australia, using an app on my iPhone. Placing the instruction took less than two minutes, the longest part of which was downloading the app. The processed image was downloaded to my device before close of business that same day. Against a glowing surface, my hand describes a complex sigil,…

After reading your comment, I was curious what your photograph might have looked like and where Dubbo was. A moment later, I had selected, searched for, and been presented with images of and articles about Dubbo. I gave them a brief, bored glance and moved on.

Don't worry, that happens when you drive through there as well.

Although doing the overnight camping option at the zoo there was a great experience.

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Post by r00fus »

epanchin wrote: post #182
kortilla wrote: post #145

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No, he calls it slowbanning. Hellbanning is when you let them keep posting but other people can’t see the posts. Hackernews hellbans as well and you can see the comments from the deplorables if you turn on “showdead” in your profile.

I know that as shadowbanning. This is one of my favourite reddit posts on the subject: https://www.reddit.com/r/tifu/comments/351buo/tifu_by_postin...

IIRC hellbanning is a variant of shadowbanning that prevents easy discovery of the banned status by putting all suspect accounts into the same "hell" invisible to normal users.

This works well if you have a network of fake accounts from a single "persona" or ring of personas - by all their indications they can't see their own posts are being ignored.

Notice: it's almost the exact response to the persona management software problem [1] (aka bots).

[1] https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2011/mar/17/us-spy-op...

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Post by youerbt »

jedberg wrote: post #210
Antwan wrote: post #140

I ran a website for youngsters several years ago. One of the duties to maintain it was to moderate discussion boards. Some kids were difficult to manage and would not accept to be banned (via email/IP/or whatever solution) and would keep recreating profiles. Ultimately I dealt with those ppl by “greylisting” them. Added a sleep() prior each page rendering of 5 to 25 secs (actually it was more sophisticated and would…

We did the same thing at reddit. If someone was abusing the site we would redirect them at the load balancer to a single server with an extra sleep in it.

Then you did the same for your mobile users, degrading their experience until they use an app or leave.

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Post by photojosh »

karatestomp wrote: post #128
hinoki wrote: post #107

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If I were somehow transported back in time to The Field Of The Cloth Of Gold[0], I’d probably be bored because my phone wouldn’t work, and the wine would probably suck. It’s hard to make good wine without knowing what yeast is. [0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_of_the_Cloth_of_Gold

No joke. We burn a bunch of lightbulbs with candle powers measured in the hundreds, have several kinds of entertainment of the highest quality that's ever existed anywhere available at the literal press of a button or with the right spoken command, have a librarian-scribe who can fetch us most any info we like nearly instantly even if it's just a passing whim, our food is abundant, cheap, outstanding, and for all but…

Something I've noticed in my kids; because they do have this access to "entertainment of the highest quality", real-world experiences struggle to measure up.

For instance, going to the circus was fun, but quickly forgotten. A local stunt pilot flying overhead only gets a quick glance.

A few minutes of a YouTube compilation gives more amazing entertainment moments than my entire childhood.

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Post by hkyeti »

jedberg wrote: post #210
Antwan wrote: post #140

I ran a website for youngsters several years ago. One of the duties to maintain it was to moderate discussion boards. Some kids were difficult to manage and would not accept to be banned (via email/IP/or whatever solution) and would keep recreating profiles. Ultimately I dealt with those ppl by “greylisting” them. Added a sleep() prior each page rendering of 5 to 25 secs (actually it was more sophisticated and would…

We did the same thing at reddit. If someone was abusing the site we would redirect them at the load balancer to a single server with an extra sleep in it.

Reddit is full of dark patterns to encourage mobile app installation.

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Post by Dylan16807 »

vnorilo wrote: post #95
brosinante wrote: post #24

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Sure but also, is this what we "want"? (for wildly varying definitions of the word want.) Takeaway available with the press of a button is certainly not what my soul wants.

I found a single origin espresso that I really like. One time I bought a bag of beans it occurred to me that requiring coffee beans from a specific farm in Rhuanda sounds like something a king might do. Even my bog standard middle class luxury feels wildly excessive sometimes.

I feel like telling the trade caravan that you want to buy from a specific place they visit is something your average merchant could do.

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Post by WorldMaker »

fortydegrees wrote: post #187
WorldMaker wrote: post #81

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One out of the box option is Dev Tools > Network and there's a Throttling dropdown on the right. Set it to something like GPRS and watch the added latency.

This applies for all sites though, whereas you want it for specific ones like reddit

Sure. Still a good place to start if you are looking to trial the idea.

Continuing to think "inside the box" of built-in Firefox tools you could pair it with different windows in different profiles, train yourself to open the "addictive" sites only in the throttled profile. I don't have the Containers add-in installed, but I wonder if you can throttle Containers separately (and if not, might be an interesting feature request).

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