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Re: Burnoutindex.org

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Post by llsf »

jlv2 wrote: post #21

My burnout index is 5/6. No surprise there. I'm more interested in why the site reloads the top portion of the page after the initial load. You can tell, because the top image changes from the person sitting on the left side of the table a flipped one where they are on the right side of the table. left https://images.ctfassets.net/z2g90m75le4q/5yT1ytvHM0WLTih13Y... right https://images.ctfassets.net/z2g90m75le4q/7kam…

hear you... got 5/6 and was thinking about improving the number of clicks on that questionnaire. Sigh... How did I get there?

Re: Burnoutindex.org

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Post by tubbs »

hinoki wrote: post #53
wcunning wrote: post #48

I got a 2.1/6, which is less than 50%. Apparently this is a "high" risk of burnout... Why not replace it with a button that says "Do you work in tech?" Yes -> High Risk of Burnout, since that's the vibe they're going with.

I got 0.6 / 6, and it said the same. Is it possible to not be at high risk of burnout according to this survey?

I was surprised when my 1/6 gave me high risk. I am very thankful for what I do and I enjoy going to work.

If you answer "None" to everything, your burnout risk is low (0/6).

Answering a single question with 1 (A few times a year or less) puts you at .1/6 (Mid), which goes up to .5/6.

I find the results reporting of this to be rather sensationalist and the whole thing pretty useless. If you're burnt out, you probably don't need an online quiz to tell you.

Re: Burnoutindex.org

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Post by [deleted] »

soneca wrote: post #74
sz4kerto wrote: post #45

Be really careful with these surveys. The problems of these, among other things: - mixing up burnout risk with burnout - mixing up burnout with physical or mental fatigue - not serving any purpose (i.e. not providing good directions) Burnout is primarily a negative change in perception, and it's a spectrum, obviously. You get burned out when your perception of the same situation gets progressively worse. This can be…

The first time I heard about burnout was from a colleague that was just trying to go back to a job after about two years being mentally unable to do any job. It started when one day, arriving at the work, they just froze and started crying uncontrollably. It was a diagnosed condition. I am always unsure of what people are talking about when they talk about burnout. Is this panic attack that makes someone temporarily…

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Re: Burnoutindex.org

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Post by almost_usual »

tubbs wrote: post #82
hinoki wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I got 0.6 / 6, and it said the same. Is it possible to not be at high risk of burnout according to this survey?

I was surprised when my 1/6 gave me high risk. I am very thankful for what I do and I enjoy going to work. If you answer "None" to everything, your burnout risk is low (0/6). Answering a single question with 1 (A few times a year or less) puts you at .1/6 (Mid), which goes up to .5/6. I find the results reporting of this to be rather sensationalist and the whole thing pretty useless. If you're burnt out, you probably…

Think it depends on the category. I scored a ‘mid’ with a 1.3.

Re: Burnoutindex.org

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Post by coleca »

marcossponton wrote: post #18
Freak_NL wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No personal information is asked, so the dataset will be pretty useless for monetization (you could just computationally generate a couple of thousand of responses and pretend it was the real deal). uBlock Origin blocked one weird tracker-like third-party I didn't recognize: fullstory.com. The rest were the usual Google analytics crap.

Marcos here, one of the members of the team behind this. Fullstory is to understand this project as a product and to see where it needs to be improved (because users don't understand or try to do things that we didn't considered, etc.). Only personal data (mail) is asked for those interested to stay in the loop in some way. The dataset without those emails will be on Github soon :)

Why ask the company name if the intent is to be anonymous? Many companies just the role name and company name is enough to identify the individual. Maybe there is only one CTO or Cloud Architect, etc. Or maybe gender + role + company is enough to identify.

Re: Burnoutindex.org

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Post by luckylion »

fogetti wrote: post #22
thrower123 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I get the sentiment, but some perspective is in order. We're in the goddamn catbird seat. We make a shitload of money, we actually do have good health insurance, and we punch keyboards in a heated office at a desk. We're not mining coal or working in the fertilizer plant from The Jungle. In this economy, if your work environment sucks, the door is open and there are greener pastures. The biggest problem is really tha…

Except that this is not true. The average salary of a software engineer in Japan, Germany and other highly developed nations is only slightly better than let's say an accountant's. If we take the amortized hourly wage by considering unpaid overtime then it becomes even worse which is on par with an average high school teacher or alike. In some cases considering the unpaid overtime plus the unpaid self-studies it can…

> The average salary of a software engineer in Japan, Germany and other highly developed nations is only slightly better than let's say an accountant's.

I don't know. A quick search shows me accountants to start with 25-35k, while software developers start at 42k and peak significantly higher. Sure, depends on your definition of slightly, I guess. If you're in Berlin, Frankfurt, Munich or Hamburg and you're not getting 50k, call a head hunter. And a lot of unpaid overtime? That's rare even for startups because labor law is pretty strict over here, so lots of overtime is a liability for the company, and, since it's pretty easy to find a new job if you're anywhere near a metropolitan area, companies do take care to not drive their employees away.

Re: Burnoutindex.org

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Post by eeZah7Ux »

Freak_NL wrote: post #8
notJim wrote: post #2

I immediately went to do this quiz, but then I couldn't help but wonder if this might be one of those Cambridge Analytica style "quizzes" where they're harvesting psychological data for unknown purposes. I'm not sure if this makes me sound savvy or insane.

No personal information is asked, so the dataset will be pretty useless for monetization (you could just computationally generate a couple of thousand of responses and pretend it was the real deal). uBlock Origin blocked one weird tracker-like third-party I didn't recognize: fullstory.com. The rest were the usual Google analytics crap.

The IP address (therefore city and country) and browser data already says a lot.

Re: Burnoutindex.org

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Post by bagacrap »

When I joined the tech industry in my early 20s and for years after, I noticed that many in their 30s or older seemed burned out. It didn't make much sense to me, because to become a tech worker takes drive and ambition and how would you just lose that one day? Now, 12 years on I can definitely see how burnout is so prevalent.

It's like living in the desert and hearing about people drowning. You'd ask yourself, "how is that even possible?" But now I feel as if I've moved to the beach, and can easily see the waves and how it's a real problem. I don't think I'm burned out, but I'm conscious enough of the possibility to keep an eye on the tide.

Re: Burnoutindex.org

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Post by eeZah7Ux »

harshvladha wrote: post #36
sp332 wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They could use your IP address or some tracking cookies to link this data to a bunch of other data. Potentially.

- use incognito to avoid trackers - use proxy / vpn - resize your window if you are still scared

No. Use the Tor Browser. The manual hacks do very little.

Re: Burnoutindex.org

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Post by eeZah7Ux »

tempsy wrote: post #15

I don't think burnout is really about overwork so much as spending even 40 hours a week doing something that is contrary to your own personal values. I suspect a lot of people work on things (ads, selling more crap, getting people in more debt, etc.) that they ultimately don't think really matter or are a net benefit to society.

That's exactly one of the main reasons. Burnout has little to do with overwork.
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