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Re: Burnoutindex.org

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Post by ghostbrainalpha »

sz4kerto wrote: post #45

Be really careful with these surveys. The problems of these, among other things: - mixing up burnout risk with burnout - mixing up burnout with physical or mental fatigue - not serving any purpose (i.e. not providing good directions) Burnout is primarily a negative change in perception, and it's a spectrum, obviously. You get burned out when your perception of the same situation gets progressively worse. This can be…

Wait.... "apathy" is rare?

I thought that is the step where most of us have been hanging out.

I have been waiting for the "real burnout" to kick in when I dropped another level or two.

Re: Burnoutindex.org

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Post by adrianmonk »

sp332 wrote: post #19
Freak_NL wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No personal information is asked, so the dataset will be pretty useless for monetization (you could just computationally generate a couple of thousand of responses and pretend it was the real deal). uBlock Origin blocked one weird tracker-like third-party I didn't recognize: fullstory.com. The rest were the usual Google analytics crap.

They could use your IP address or some tracking cookies to link this data to a bunch of other data. Potentially.

One nightmare / conspiracy theory scenario is they sell it to potential employers, recruiters, job search web sites, etc. and send them the signal "don't hire this person; they're burnt out".

Re: Burnoutindex.org

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Post by soneca »

sz4kerto wrote: post #45

Be really careful with these surveys. The problems of these, among other things: - mixing up burnout risk with burnout - mixing up burnout with physical or mental fatigue - not serving any purpose (i.e. not providing good directions) Burnout is primarily a negative change in perception, and it's a spectrum, obviously. You get burned out when your perception of the same situation gets progressively worse. This can be…

The first time I heard about burnout was from a colleague that was just trying to go back to a job after about two years being mentally unable to do any job. It started when one day, arriving at the work, they just froze and started crying uncontrollably.

It was a diagnosed condition. I am always unsure of what people are talking about when they talk about burnout. Is this panic attack that makes someone temporarily incapable of working or is a strong stress feeling that might be solved just by changing jobs?

The spectrum idea makes sense, but the situation, consequences, and ways to help are very different on different parts of this spectrum.

Re: Burnoutindex.org

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Post by derision »

sp332 wrote: post #24
derision wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've never had an issue with any of those things. Maybe people should move away from the valley into the rest of the country where the jobs are more humane

You could still use your leverage to help other people get those things. Solidarity and all that.

My point is people can get those things by moving away from the "cool" startups and work for the vast majority of other companies that already treat tech workers incredibly well. Compared to my peers outside of tech, I've always had better benefits and better working conditions than them. People need to realize that many of the "issues" they perceive with the industry are limited to certain coastal areas. It's the same with the "women in tech" issue. In every position I've held (I live in Cleveland, OH for reference) there's always been a balanced representation of developers from both genders.

Re: Burnoutindex.org

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Post by dnate »

acrefoot wrote: post #29
tempsy wrote: post #15

I don't think burnout is really about overwork so much as spending even 40 hours a week doing something that is contrary to your own personal values. I suspect a lot of people work on things (ads, selling more crap, getting people in more debt, etc.) that they ultimately don't think really matter or are a net benefit to society.

I think it's possible to burn out working on things you think are important but that are chronically underfunded or ignored. For example, I can imagine working on cleantech or green NGOs only to be consistently frustrated that people don't want to pay for better recycling and cleaner energy, or want to reduce their water usage.

Also, that theory does not work with the fact, that a lot of burnout victims are social workers.

Re: Burnoutindex.org

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Post by adrianmonk »

eanzenberg wrote: post #38
harshvladha wrote: post #32

I got 0.5/6 and still it says "Your burnout risk is HIGH" I feel, it was because of little high Self-inefficacy. I experimented with different answers, once I got 0.6/6 and it said: "Your burnout risk is MID", but for that Self-inefficacy was LOW. It seems like Self-inefficacy has been taken as a high factor for Burnout.

The quiz is at best propaganda and at worst psychologically damaging. Besides, you can't laugh at the optics of 1%ers whining about how hard their insanely profitable jobs are.

Optics are real, of course, but burnout isn't necessarily whining. It can be seen as a kind of "business risk" for your career.

Ignore it or otherwise fail to manage it, and you can end up stagnating instead of advancing, souring your relationship with your employer, or letting the situation build to a crisis where you must have relief and decide to chuck it all and mow lawns for a living instead.

Also, every person needs to understand their own balance between the value they place on dumptrucks full of cash and sacrifices made for work. At some point the additional $50K in salary isn't worth it, or maybe it is. Or maybe $50K less in salary is a good trade-off.

Re: Burnoutindex.org

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Post by almost_usual »

hinoki wrote: post #53
wcunning wrote: post #48

I got a 2.1/6, which is less than 50%. Apparently this is a "high" risk of burnout... Why not replace it with a button that says "Do you work in tech?" Yes -> High Risk of Burnout, since that's the vibe they're going with.

I got 0.6 / 6, and it said the same. Is it possible to not be at high risk of burnout according to this survey?

I got a ‘mid risk’ at 1.3. All of my ratings were low except ‘exhaustion’ which was a mid.

Re: Burnoutindex.org

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Post by MrZander »

hinoki wrote: post #53
wcunning wrote: post #48

I got a 2.1/6, which is less than 50%. Apparently this is a "high" risk of burnout... Why not replace it with a button that says "Do you work in tech?" Yes -> High Risk of Burnout, since that's the vibe they're going with.

I got 0.6 / 6, and it said the same. Is it possible to not be at high risk of burnout according to this survey?

This thing is trash. I put "never" on everything and then "a few times a year" on one and I was still "mid" risk at 0.3/6.

Putting "once a month or less" on one thing made it "high" at 0.5/6

So basically 0.0 = LOW, 0.1 - 0.3 = MID, 0.3 - 6.0 = HIGH

Basically everyone who isn't in their dream job is at high risk of burnout. Pointless quiz.

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