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I Add 3-25 Seconds of Latency to Every Site I Visit

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Re: I Add 3-25 Seconds of Latency to Every Site I Visit

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This is brilliant! I've been suffering from work related anxiety for years which I've learned to douse with Youtube, Reddit or HN. This became a huge problem for me recently and so I had to try to break my habit loops (Cue -> Action -> Reward). I cannot quit cold-turkey because all the methods that I can think of to block the websites I can undo in the mania of anxiety. Youtube always gives you an option to look for…

Most of my Youtube consumption is via youtube-dl run on my server via cron job, with the videos then synced from there to the relevant devices by Syncthing. For things that don't have ready-made playlists I can put in cron jobs, I run youtube-dl manually. Then when I'm ready to watch it, I open the video in VLC and then delete it after I'm done. I set this up for my convenience, since I often like to consume this med…

On Android, through f-droid, there is app called 'NewPipe'. It uses youtube-dl to let you search and watch videos. It can use your exported subscriptions to show you their videos. But the gui is so not interested in keeping your attention, no immediate suggestions and no 'home' page, that it feels rudimentary. You get the bare minimum you need, and no more.

Re: I Add 3-25 Seconds of Latency to Every Site I Visit

#83
post #30

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Sure but also, is this what we "want"? (for wildly varying definitions of the word want.) Takeaway available with the press of a button is certainly not what my soul wants.

Sure we do. These are our small-scale desires. Then you might think that on a larger scale this is not really what you want- but try to deny the right of people to desire ordering food from home, or buying online, or going where they want as fast as it's possible, or being cured from pneumonia or cancer.

Our monkey brains are not evolved to deal with the satisfaction barrage of met expectations, or the microdosed dopamine of incremental reputation tallies.

We've weaponised the apparatus of retail and communication against our own limbic systems.

Re: I Add 3-25 Seconds of Latency to Every Site I Visit

#84

Packages show up on the lawn it is astonishing how they appear. They are astonishing surprises. It’s what I ordered the cat food the espresso machine the two new tables. Ordering things and how they appear basically I am a small-scale sorcerer. On the road I press the button and the music goes. Air conditioning gas pedal restaurant take-out etc. It is my will being perpetually sated. Pretend we are writing a fable in…

A few weeks ago, in support of a customer's new facilities, I tasked a satellite imaging platform to take a photograph of Dubbo, Australia, using an app on my iPhone. Placing the instruction took less than two minutes, the longest part of which was downloading the app. The processed image was downloaded to my device before close of business that same day. Against a glowing surface, my hand describes a complex sigil,…

In some ways, this has happened for decades with satellite telecom relays.

Still super cool though! :)!

Re: I Add 3-25 Seconds of Latency to Every Site I Visit

#85
The author's description of this as 'watering down' the Internet, as if some élan vital is absent, I think is potentially misleading. As the author makes clear, this is working to minimise the addictive aspects of browsing, not to block the content. All the content is still there, just organised in a way that forces you to acknowledge that you can't and shouldn't deal with it all at once, or non-stop.

Re: I Add 3-25 Seconds of Latency to Every Site I Visit

#86
post #74

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HN has a no-procrastination mode that might be useful. On the settings page, turn on `noprocrast` and then configure `maxvisit` and `mindelay` - HN will force you to wait `mindelay` minutes whenever you have been on there longer than `maxvisit` minutes. Maybe you knew about this already, but posting this anyway as it might be useful to someone else.

I don't know about you, but my anxiety-habits are a beast. If I overtly stop myself from doing something, then I can very easily undo it. The trick is to stop the habit from triggering. My trigger for HN is stress and I can't stop it, other than the proxy delay method the author mentions. If I block myslef, then I can un-block myself. In youtube, I have multiple habits. I've curtailed the most egregious ones using th…

> If I block myslef, then I can un-block myself.

Only beforehand. In the moment, when you're jonesing for your fix, HN won't let you in to undo the noprocrastination election (at least, that's how it used to be)—and that's good.

Re: I Add 3-25 Seconds of Latency to Every Site I Visit

#87
Something I've found beneficial is to self-enforce a "search-only" usage of social media (youtube, twitter, etc). Essentially, don't allow yourself to mindlessly consume feeds, but if you'd like to search for something specific, go ahead.

It might be worth writing some sort of extension or wrapper website to enforce this.

Re: I Add 3-25 Seconds of Latency to Every Site I Visit

#88
LeechBlock NG (the browser extension) has a "delay" mode of blocking. Make sure you enable "count only active tab" or it will waste much RAM and CPU.

With full blocking I used to cheat by disabling the block, and then "forgot" to enable it again.

With delay-based blocking I'm also cheating: instead of waiting for the delay I get up and do some minor chore. I used to feel smug about how clever I was, sabotaging my own block. Until I realized what a positive change this was.

PS: I've waited 40s to submit this comment. You'll need another plugin to recover the text if you submit and then hit the delay page. Or submit before the timer runs out.

Re: I Add 3-25 Seconds of Latency to Every Site I Visit

#89

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Really curious why you are being downvoted. The pyramid of needs is at work here, when your basic needs are satisfied it becomes easier to work on higher level issues. Is one a better philosopher when they are starving? I don't know. I would rather be a well fed philosopher than a starving one.

Lots of things that look like hierarchies are more like stuff distributed ~ power law. Certainly wealth, but I think actual needs are pretty distributed ~ power law. Breathing looks hierarchically more important than self-actualization but it's just that a material portion of your entire ensemble of needs is just breathing - completely not optional. Given that, you can futz w/ stuff and see if the levy-stable structu…

> Given that, you can futz w/ stuff and see if the levy-stable structure of this sort of thing will allow you to fold over different stuff

Your writing alternates between being overly complicated and being so casual that it's vague. Can you rephrase in plain language?

Re: I Add 3-25 Seconds of Latency to Every Site I Visit

#90
post #70

This is actually a brilliant idea, but I want to ask about something slightly off-topic, hope others can chime in as well: > Withdrawn mostly from Reddit in favor of early 2000’s style forums that I pay money for I've never heard of such forums. Does anyone have any examples of these? In particular ones that you pay for, but I'm interested in free ones too.

The SomethingAwful forums [0] used to cost $10 to join [1] in the early 2000s. A more recent example is the Farnam Street community, which costs money to join [2].

[0] https://forums.somethingawful.com/

[1] https://secure.somethingawful.com/products/register.php

[2] https://fs.blog/membership/

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