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SoundCloud raises $75M from SiriusXM

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Re: SoundCloud raises $75M from SiriusXM

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When I was a truck driver, Satellite Radio was practically a necessity. Sure I loaded up my ipod with music, but the selection was too damn limited and I would tire of hearing the same songs over & over again. The best case scenario for FM radio (when you would finally find something that you could tolerate) was 1 hour. 1 hour of variety to stave off bordem and try to save your sanity. The effective range of the FM s…

Why not listen to audiobooks? That's what I did when I had to drive to work. I eventually get bored of music. Audiobooks though are never boring, and there's a near endless supply of them. Where I live you can borrow them from a library as well. You can't listen to audiobooks when e.g. reading code or even coding, but you totally can while driving.

Re: SoundCloud raises $75M from SiriusXM

#172

When I was a truck driver, Satellite Radio was practically a necessity. Sure I loaded up my ipod with music, but the selection was too damn limited and I would tire of hearing the same songs over & over again. The best case scenario for FM radio (when you would finally find something that you could tolerate) was 1 hour. 1 hour of variety to stave off bordem and try to save your sanity. The effective range of the FM s…

I'm definitely in the minority here, but I cancelled my Spotify subscription in favor of SiriusXM. There were a couple changes they've made recently that made this make sense. One, all their car subscriptions now come with an app version. And two, they have a pretty cool Web UI ( https://player.siriusxm.com ) where you can listen to any channel live or experiment with "Xtra" channels (it's a Pandora integration.) My…

Nope, not the only one, I much prefer radio programmed by a human to one programmed from an algorithm. I have an actual sat radio in the car, and I use the streaming with amazon speakers at home.

Re: SoundCloud raises $75M from SiriusXM

#173

When I was a truck driver, Satellite Radio was practically a necessity. Sure I loaded up my ipod with music, but the selection was too damn limited and I would tire of hearing the same songs over & over again. The best case scenario for FM radio (when you would finally find something that you could tolerate) was 1 hour. 1 hour of variety to stave off bordem and try to save your sanity. The effective range of the FM s…

I actually find Sirius frustrating for long road trips or commutes; most of the channels repeat their content every 6 or 7 or 8 hours. I often find the same programming on my home journey that was on when I was on the way in. Many news type channels like BBC endlessly repeat every hour. Having a pile of podcasts and audiobooks ready at hand makes long drives on ski trips much more tolerable to me... But I do keep the…

Way back before Sirius and XM merged, XM used to have a bunch of stations that were DJed by humans. I don't remember ever hearing repeated blocks of content on those. There were other channels that were DJed automatically, and those could get repetitive, but the channels with human DJs were always fresh.

Sadly, it appears they started firing the human DJs several years back -- see https://www.fool.com/investing/general/2014/02/10/will-firin... for an example.

Re: SoundCloud raises $75M from SiriusXM

#174

When I was a truck driver, Satellite Radio was practically a necessity. Sure I loaded up my ipod with music, but the selection was too damn limited and I would tire of hearing the same songs over & over again. The best case scenario for FM radio (when you would finally find something that you could tolerate) was 1 hour. 1 hour of variety to stave off bordem and try to save your sanity. The effective range of the FM s…

I'm definitely in the minority here, but I cancelled my Spotify subscription in favor of SiriusXM. There were a couple changes they've made recently that made this make sense. One, all their car subscriptions now come with an app version. And two, they have a pretty cool Web UI ( https://player.siriusxm.com ) where you can listen to any channel live or experiment with "Xtra" channels (it's a Pandora integration.) My…

> My use case is that I work mostly from home and want something mindless to play in the background while I'm working.

XM used to have a clever little device specifically designed for this use case -- the XM-PCR (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XM_PCR). It was a little XM receiver that plugged into your PC and could be driven from there via client software. And the protocol for communicating with the device was pretty open, so hackers quickly put together really good native clients for Windows, OS X, Linux, etc. that were miles better than both XM's default client and their Web player.

It only lasted for a couple years, though, because those same hackers eventually figured out a way for clients to just rip every song that passed through the XM-PCR into high-bitrate MP3 files on your hard drive. So what went from a neat, hackable little device quickly turned into a music pirate's dream.

There was a gentleman's agreement for a while between the developers of the major clients not to take advantage of this capability, as they all knew that if it ever got exploited at scale XM would shut down the PCR and all their work would instantly be rendered worthless. But inevitably someone shipped a client with this "feature", and XM predictably stopped selling the PCR and remotely disabled all existing units. Boom, so ends a scene.

(Here's a contemporary story from Ars Technica with more detail on the shutdown: https://arstechnica.com/uncategorized/2004/08/4147-2/)

It was all too bad, as like I said, if your use case was playing music while you worked the PCR was a really cool little device. I suppose this is why we can't have nice things :-/

Re: SoundCloud raises $75M from SiriusXM

#175

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The other issue with Spotify is that they had no answer for Dropbox, clyp.it or more recently, Bandlab. Back in the day if you wanted to collab with another producer, vocalist, rapper, whatever, SoundCloud was the quick and dirty way of sharing audio ideas and files in the browser. For larger projects you used Dropbox. Shame they tried to be internet radio and not a place and tool for content creators, like YouTube.…

The other issue with Spotify is that they had no answer for Dropbox, clyp.it or more recently, Bandlab. Um, those things are not an issue for Spotify; Spotify's product is not meant to be used by creators like Soundcloud and definitely not even in the same ballpark as Dropbox.

brain fart. Sub "soundcloud" for spotify.

Re: SoundCloud raises $75M from SiriusXM

#176

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If you really want to lock in your long mix/specific moods, check out di.fm. Its all hand curated and the genre's all have a particular mood about them, many of which are just the right amount of vocal/nonvocal to push you through a day. Also just a warning - SiriusXM doesn't just let you leave. They have some of the most aggressive "winback" salespeople in the business, and they will NEVER stop mailing you offers th…

Oh, that's wild...I had no idea they still existed. I was a paid subscriber of theirs for many years back in the day. I'll check it out again; thanks!

Also di.fm will play artist's shows (aka podcasts) at certain times on certain channels. It should be under the calendar tab.

I have never subscribed to a streaming music service as I would rather purchase a song I like once and own it forever. So di.fm and several dance music artist shows keep new music coming in.

I have SiriusXM in the car and had it when it was just XM. I only listen to small number of channels and when I don't want to hear what's on any of them, I have an iPod Touch that I can use over Bluetooth to listen to purchased music, downloaded podcasts, and audiobooks.

I really wish Sirius would simulcast di.fm's channels just for the variety that they can't (and don't try to) compete with.

Re: SoundCloud raises $75M from SiriusXM

#177
post #121

And they still haven't fixed the bug that doesn't let you drag and drop to rearrange the songs in your 'Spotlight' list on your profile in Chrome. I reported it about 6 years ago, and repeatedly re-report it at least every 12 months. Hopefully some of this $75M goes towards a competent javascript programmer for their frontend.

They should give you a refund.

Yep - I've been a Pro plan member since almost the beginning (Spotlight is a PRO only feature), so this isn't me simply railing against a +free+ service. BTW this bug totally crashes Chrome - all tabs, not just the tab that SC is open on, so it does cause a massive hit on my productivity whenever it happens.

Re: SoundCloud raises $75M from SiriusXM

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post #162

Wait, what? I’m already surprised SiriusXM is still somehow around, let alone that they have $75 million to invest in another company and not that they’re taking $75 million to stay afloat...

I don't understand satellite radio.. Ok in an airplane. But why in a car? In the Netherlands all radio is FM and its for free. Why would somebody want satellite radio... I guess there is no full country coverage of FM in USA?

satellite radio doesn't have commercials

Re: SoundCloud raises $75M from SiriusXM

#179
post #59

I feel like I'm in the minority of those who love SoundCloud. It's one the very few places for indie music makers and DJs to showcase their work that otherwise may not necessarily be published via the official publishing channels. That includes e.g. long running DJ mixes, not exactly the type of material for the official release bureaucracy and associated costs. The only problem with SoundCloud is that instead of fol…

I’m not sure how I’m supposed to pay for Soundcloud. I don’t need offline mode and it’s too expensive.

I would pay for 320kbps streams tho (which I can get to be offline with youtube-dl).

Re: SoundCloud raises $75M from SiriusXM

#180
post #59

I feel like I'm in the minority of those who love SoundCloud. It's one the very few places for indie music makers and DJs to showcase their work that otherwise may not necessarily be published via the official publishing channels. That includes e.g. long running DJ mixes, not exactly the type of material for the official release bureaucracy and associated costs. The only problem with SoundCloud is that instead of fol…

> get makers pay some nominal fee for hosting It doesn't work well and for obvious reasons. If you're an indie producer, you don't necessarily have the money to keep paying for hosting indefinitely. Instead you want to upload your work somewhere where it will always be available, for free. Vimeo charges producers instead of consumers and they are struggling — if you have a commercial website that has to serve content…

I’d love to see their hosting and bandwidth costs. I bet it’s around the size of 10 engineers.
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