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Re: SoundCloud raises $75M from SiriusXM

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Post by rkochman »

myself248 wrote: post #96
subhro wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But ADS-B is catching up and quickly. I understand there are a few additional layers in SXM and the resolution is better when looking at 200+NM. I find SXM weather to be kind of extortion because they use publicly available data and sell it just for packaging it nice.

ADS-B isn't a weather product, is it? It tells you where other planes are, it does not tell you about cloud layers, winds-aloft, or other meteorological data. Unless I'm incredibly mistaken. SXM carries this (along with a ton of other products) in their stream, alongside the audio channels that most people know. Their agricultural products, aviation products, stock-market feed, fuel-price data, and more, are valuable…

You are mistaken https://www.faa.gov/nextgen/programs/adsb/pilot/#fisb

Re: SoundCloud raises $75M from SiriusXM

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Post by muglug »

mojuba wrote: post #76
bad_user wrote: post #68

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> get makers pay some nominal fee for hosting It doesn't work well and for obvious reasons. If you're an indie producer, you don't necessarily have the money to keep paying for hosting indefinitely. Instead you want to upload your work somewhere where it will always be available, for free. Vimeo charges producers instead of consumers and they are struggling — if you have a commercial website that has to serve content…

> This partially explains the success behind YouTube I thought the success of YouTube was largely due to their low bars for quality of content. Put simply, they allow all kinds of crap as long as it generates views. Vimeo's model is quality content from indie producers, actually they are similar to SoundCloud in some ways. Think about this: for example NASA has plenty of quality audio and video materials, where shoul…

> Vimeo's model is quality content from indie producers, actually they are similar to SoundCloud in some ways.

Not coincedentally, SoundCloud is run by a former Vimeo CEO.

Re: SoundCloud raises $75M from SiriusXM

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Post by rkochman »

subhro wrote: post #90
briandear wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are a very big deal for aviation. My plane uses XM in-cockpit weather products.

But ADS-B is catching up and quickly. I understand there are a few additional layers in SXM and the resolution is better when looking at 200+NM. I find SXM weather to be kind of extortion because they use publicly available data and sell it just for packaging it nice.

I used to have XM weather. The data is generally better, and it works on the ground, but I couldn’t justify the $30/mo for the kind of flying I do. ADS-B weather is “good enough”.

Re: SoundCloud raises $75M from SiriusXM

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Post by simias »

muglug wrote: post #110
simias wrote: post #83

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I think YouTube's success is mainly that they were first, there were always free to use so there was no reason for anybody to look elsewhere. It's hard to compete against free and established services. You basically have to find a killer feature (and hope that the established service will be slow to copy it) or pay people to do the switch. >Not everyone wants to be on the Internet's sewage system that's YouTube. Yet…

> I think YouTube's success is mainly that they were first Actually, Vimeo's first videos[0] were uploaded a month before YouTube's[1]. [0] https://vimeo.com/15 [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNQXAC9IVRw

Thank you for pointing it out, for some reason I thought that Vimeo was significantly more recent.

Re: SoundCloud raises $75M from SiriusXM

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Post by braindongle »

malthaus wrote: post #92
braindongle wrote: post #37

Yes! Soundcloud, to me, is meritocracy in music today. Are they, will they, be as evil as everyone else in sneakily selling personal data? Sure, that's beside the point; a society-wide problem. Soundcloud provides a direct connection between fully independent music creators and an audience, large or small. If my music were that good, I would blow up on Soundcloud, at some scale. Disagree? Ask Billie Eilish what she t…

That hasn't been the case for a long long time. Especially reposting turned it into yet another spammy service full of promoters. Additionally, discovery is terrible. There used to be cases of people being discovered, im sure. But a lot of it is not quite the rag-to-riches story they make it seem, especially your example of Billie Eilish.

Do you create music independently? Have you tried to distribute it? If not, from where is your expertise? If so, maybe your music isn't that good? That's the responsibility that I take.

I have just over 8,000 listens on Soundcloud. I have good reason to believe that the great majority of those are real. It's quite satisfying. My hobby has perhaps connected with some people, in the magical way that music does. If I were better at it, it wouldn't just be a hobby. :)

Re: SoundCloud raises $75M from SiriusXM

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Post by hermitdev »

cmrdporcupine wrote: post #64
UI_at_80x24 wrote: post #35

When I was a truck driver, Satellite Radio was practically a necessity. Sure I loaded up my ipod with music, but the selection was too damn limited and I would tire of hearing the same songs over & over again. The best case scenario for FM radio (when you would finally find something that you could tolerate) was 1 hour. 1 hour of variety to stave off bordem and try to save your sanity. The effective range of the FM s…

I actually find Sirius frustrating for long road trips or commutes; most of the channels repeat their content every 6 or 7 or 8 hours. I often find the same programming on my home journey that was on when I was on the way in. Many news type channels like BBC endlessly repeat every hour. Having a pile of podcasts and audiobooks ready at hand makes long drives on ski trips much more tolerable to me... But I do keep the…

I also found Sirius frustrating in the same manner. Except for me, it was my daily commute. I could set the clock by the playlist. I only listened to 2 channels and for some reason, the traffic updates to my car stopped working. When they wanted something like $400 to renew for 1 year, I said fuck off.

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Post by nosajm »

myself248 wrote: post #94
koolba wrote: post #24

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They have an incredibly efficient negative cancelation program that hikes the teaser rate to something like $45/mo.

Yeah, I'm looking at getting one of the cheap teaser receivers at BBY and then activating it on a Privacy.com card or a giftcard or something, so they can't pull that even if I forget or am unable to navigate their cancellation hoops.

I recently tried to subscribe to XM radio using multiple pre-paid Visa cards (for the same reason you outlined above) and all were denied. It also seems that using a credit card that expires before your subscription lapses won't help you either. They will send a bill to your address on file and report you to a collection agency if you do not pay.

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Post by jamil7 »

morrbo wrote: post #84
golergka wrote: post #77

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> That includes e.g. long running DJ mixes, not exactly the type of material for the official release bureaucracy and associated costs. Mixcloud does a much better job at this.

Mixcloud is great however the people in charge seem to be intent on killing the platform with bad ideas. I say this as a huge fan and a paying customer (premium user). The android app is horrible. They used to have 10-30 minutes of cache time, now they have 0. You go under a tunnel, on the tube, whatever, and your stream cuts out. Also lots of UI bugs. This might have gotten better but I wouldn't know as I am on an o…

I really wish they would open the API up and allow third party clients, more competition and choice there could only be a good thing for users.

Re: SoundCloud raises $75M from SiriusXM

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Post by nitrogen »

muglug wrote: post #110
simias wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think YouTube's success is mainly that they were first, there were always free to use so there was no reason for anybody to look elsewhere. It's hard to compete against free and established services. You basically have to find a killer feature (and hope that the established service will be slow to copy it) or pay people to do the switch. >Not everyone wants to be on the Internet's sewage system that's YouTube. Yet…

> I think YouTube's success is mainly that they were first Actually, Vimeo's first videos[0] were uploaded a month before YouTube's[1]. [0] https://vimeo.com/15 [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNQXAC9IVRw

I think Google Video also launched slightly before YouTube, if I'm remembering and reading the dates right.

Re: SoundCloud raises $75M from SiriusXM

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Post by hermitdev »

freeone3000 wrote: post #82
have_faith wrote: post #67

Tangentially related. I hadn't heard of SiriusXM before so checked out their website. The homepage is a bit confusing and I'm not 100% sure what it is or why I need to pay separately if I listen inside or outside of a car? I get that it's a music streaming service of sorts just not sure what their angle is exactly. Spotify for instance doesn't care where I listen to the music I'm just paying to stream it wherever I w…

They run a constellation of satellites such that satellite receivers, mounted commonly in cars, can receive programming for music. The internet offering is a new thing.

> The internet offering is a new thing.

It's not a new thing. It's a newer thing. It's been around for years. I used subscribe 4-5 years ago so I could get commentary on soccer games while I was watching in a pub (w/ no audio).

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