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How ~75% of PirateBay traffic is seeded by 100 people driven by profit
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Re: How ~75% of PirateBay traffic is seeded by 100 people driven by profit
#22That is one awful article. Arbitrarily cut in 4 pieces and never getting to the point. It is about a paper: http://conferences.sigcomm.org/co-next/2010/CoNEXT_papers/11... [pdf] which from a first glance is not very good either.
Also the traffic is not what this is about but users uploading things.
Did anyone read the paper? Worth a second look or is it rubbish? "We demonstrate that a small fraction of publishers is responsible for 67% of the published content and 75% of the downloads." suggest the ladder. Not to mention that they talk about Bittorrent but actually mean The Pirate Bay.
Re: How ~75% of PirateBay traffic is seeded by 100 people driven by profit
#23I am shocked, shocked that piracy is not driven by music connoisseurs and film buffs eager to bring the artistic and cinematic masterworks of our times like Baby and Salt to poor wretches who can barely afford their $60 a month broadband and $500 computers to say nothing of their $0.99 music downloads.
In the US sure, but how many can afford it in the third world?
How many "need it" in the third world? Don't they have a local scene adjusted to their culture? Do they absolutely have to see the latest hollywood crap?
Re: How ~75% of PirateBay traffic is seeded by 100 people driven by profit
#24A couple of things struck me while reading this article:
1) Everything is a market. Any time people get together, for any purpose, trading occurs. That means the art of trading -- your time for a few ads, or whatever -- is happening. The users of Pirate Bay may be sticking it to the man or whatnot, but it's just another marketplace -- albeit one with much cheaper entry and transaction costs. (So it's a winner for the participants)
2) The confusion, yet again, between correlation and causation. Yes, there may only be 100 people who start all the torrents, but the 100 people are not the cause of the torrents, they're just the statistical artifact of having a marketplace in which certain behaviors are rewarded more than others. Take away those specific 100, and a new group would form. It's not like those 100 people are somehow directly causing the effect, they're just the people who fell into that role in that community at that time.
Re: How ~75% of PirateBay traffic is seeded by 100 people driven by profit
#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yep. "The scene" really hates p2p in all its forms. They have been having inter-group drama over it for years. Pretty hilarious all round. See: http://www.scenenotice.org/details.php?id=1847 http://www.scenenotice.org/details.php?id=1920 and many others on that site.
Don't these people have ANYTHING to do?
It seems to me that they are doing what they enjoy.
Re: How ~75% of PirateBay traffic is seeded by 100 people driven by profit
#26People have been putting those little files in for years, the only thing that's changed is that now the destination sites are bittorrent trackers with adverts and the txt files are poorly spelled and ugly, whereas back in the day they'd have awesome ASCII art advertising the various scene dumpsites the release had been FXP'd through.
They still have those ASCII art and scene dumpsites. Problem is that someone with access to scene material takes that, and then retags it with their shitty website and uploads it to bittorrent.
What a shame that their beautiful art which they invested time and energy into is being misappropriated by someone else so that they cannot profit from their creative endeavours.
Re: How ~75% of PirateBay traffic is seeded by 100 people driven by profit
#27I am shocked, shocked that piracy is not driven by music connoisseurs and film buffs eager to bring the artistic and cinematic masterworks of our times like Baby and Salt to poor wretches who can barely afford their $60 a month broadband and $500 computers to say nothing of their $0.99 music downloads.
In the US sure, but how many can afford it in the third world?
Get them reliable electricity, clean water, access to capital and stop propping up their corrupt governments... and give them all computers. And then we can talk about whether their music downloads are priced fairly.
Re: How ~75% of PirateBay traffic is seeded by 100 people driven by profit
#28That is one awful article. Arbitrarily cut in 4 pieces and never getting to the point. It is about a paper: http://conferences.sigcomm.org/co-next/2010/CoNEXT_papers/11... [pdf] which from a first glance is not very good either. Also the traffic is not what this is about but users uploading things. Did anyone read the paper? Worth a second look or is it rubbish? "We demonstrate that a small fraction of publishers is…
Articles like these make me wish HN had a TL;DR option. Something like:
How ~75% of PirateBay traffic is seeded by 100 people driven by profit
"Seeders put links in their content requesting that you visit their Adsense driven site" Click to read more...
Nice idea for my next hacking project maybe.
Re: How ~75% of PirateBay traffic is seeded by 100 people driven by profit
#29Uhmmm...Do they really call that piece of crap "research"?
Agrhrrrr
Re: How ~75% of PirateBay traffic is seeded by 100 people driven by profit
#30That is one awful article. Arbitrarily cut in 4 pieces and never getting to the point. It is about a paper: http://conferences.sigcomm.org/co-next/2010/CoNEXT_papers/11... [pdf] which from a first glance is not very good either. Also the traffic is not what this is about but users uploading things. Did anyone read the paper? Worth a second look or is it rubbish? "We demonstrate that a small fraction of publishers is…
i did not read the paper but sigcomm is one of the premier networking conferences...so i do not expect the paper to be rubbish