interesting points made about this tool and in regard to licensing and cloud computing. I agree this tool is useful in checking /testing licensing schemes, and as i am in the process of completing the development of a dual key encryption system for windows apps (web apps later maybe), i will find this tool very useful, however, the software business in my opinion is ultimately about the total cost of delivering the app/data to the end user. Cloud computing probably is the main platform for future apps as the platforms for delivery are so diverse, windows, mac, linux mobile ... but keep in mind, total cost of cloud computing could rise, and there are some apps which have to be run locally for any number of reasons ...
ILSpy is the open-source .NET assembly browser and decompiler.
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#12It seems the number of startups using .NET is increasing, or, at least, the interest on it by the HN community is growing. I'm curious, so: AskHN: Are you using .NET on your startup and why did you chose it?
I have used .NET for all my start up endeavors. Like others have suggested, it just works for me since I have background in .NET and windows development.
Although I have experimented with Ruby and Python both I never felt like the incurring the cost of learning curve while trying to complete a project. In my opinion my customers do not care about the language the application is written in as long as they are accessing it from a browser.
One thing I want to point out is that the monthly costs for VPS are much higher compared to linux nodes and it has a significant impact on hosting costs every month.
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#13Whoa! That was fast. A good working application in a few weeks.
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#14august 2008: "Our commitment is to maintain an amazing free tool ..." http://www.red-gate.com/our-company/about/news/net-reflector february 2011: "Red Gate has announced that it will charge $35 for version 7 of .NET Reflector upon its release in early March" http://www.red-gate.com/products/dotnet-development/reflecto...
From the second link: "As many of you know, our original intention was to maintain .NET Reflector as a free tool. But, after two-and-a-half years of providing it without charge, we realized that we could not make the free model work. We know that this will cause pain for some people in the .NET community, and we apologize for the change in policy. As a commercial company, we need to charge at least a nominal amount t…
If RedGate weren't confident in maintaining a free version why the fuck they got Reflector from Lutz ?! As long as is no free version it is money grubbing.
RedGate makes some lovely tools but they fucked up royally with Reflector.
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#15It seems the number of startups using .NET is increasing, or, at least, the interest on it by the HN community is growing. I'm curious, so: AskHN: Are you using .NET on your startup and why did you chose it?
Perhaps a large percentage of startups are using .net but not mentioning it to HN for fear of not sounding cool like Ruby or a NoSQL platform.
We use it because we know it and can launch something fast. It does everything we need it to do, maybe the backend is not very elegant, but functionality wise, it's all there. For us, getting a userbase and revenue going is far more desirable than learning the new 'ultimate platform that scales to the universe'.
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#16It seems the number of startups using .NET is increasing, or, at least, the interest on it by the HN community is growing. I'm curious, so: AskHN: Are you using .NET on your startup and why did you chose it?
I have used .NET for all my start up endeavors. Like others have suggested, it just works for me since I have background in .NET and windows development. Although I have experimented with Ruby and Python both I never felt like the incurring the cost of learning curve while trying to complete a project. In my opinion my customers do not care about the language the application is written in as long as they are accessin…
Have you tried hosting on mono/linux? I'm curious about this, myself.
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#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
From the second link: "As many of you know, our original intention was to maintain .NET Reflector as a free tool. But, after two-and-a-half years of providing it without charge, we realized that we could not make the free model work. We know that this will cause pain for some people in the .NET community, and we apologize for the change in policy. As a commercial company, we need to charge at least a nominal amount t…
If RedGate weren't confident in maintaining a free version why the fuck they got Reflector from Lutz ?! As long as is no free version it is money grubbing. RedGate makes some lovely tools but they fucked up royally with Reflector.
There were confident they could maintain a free version; they tried (really hard, I might add) to make the freemium business model work with Reflector, but in the end, they just couldn't.
BTW, have you ever considered that if Red Gate didn't buy Reflector from Lutz, he might've stopped maintaining it for free on into perpetuity? That at some point, he might've realized that he was giving away something that people found extraordinarily useful, and might have tried to monetize it himself? What if, 2-3 years ago, we were instead reading a blog post from Lutz saying that he was going to start charging $200/license for Reflector, effective immediately? Would you still be so morally outraged? If not, why?
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not in a startup or anything, but consider this; cloud computing is gaining momentum fast, and lots of startups will use cloud platforms like EC2, AppEngine, Azure etc. The one thing about this change is that traditional licensing concerns go away. If you use Azure, you are paying by usage, so Windows licenses aren't in play. I guess my point is that the fear of launching a startup and having to face spirling lic…
Plus: Compared to salaries, license costs are negligible.
Exactly....for all this FUD about licensing costs, if that's the difference between make or break, or affects your profitability in a major way, then you have a lot bigger problems than your licensing cost.
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#19It seems the number of startups using .NET is increasing, or, at least, the interest on it by the HN community is growing. I'm curious, so: AskHN: Are you using .NET on your startup and why did you chose it?
Yep, we're .NET through-and-through. Our main product is written in C#/F# and is a tool for .NET developers, and our website is built on the WISA stack.
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#20It seems the number of startups using .NET is increasing, or, at least, the interest on it by the HN community is growing. I'm curious, so: AskHN: Are you using .NET on your startup and why did you chose it?
I'm not in a startup or anything, but consider this; cloud computing is gaining momentum fast, and lots of startups will use cloud platforms like EC2, AppEngine, Azure etc. The one thing about this change is that traditional licensing concerns go away. If you use Azure, you are paying by usage, so Windows licenses aren't in play. I guess my point is that the fear of launching a startup and having to face spirling lic…
Plus: If you go Azure where will you develop? Will some nice M$ guy install Visual Studio in the cloud and you will use remote desktop? Where will you test? No local dev servers, really?
Besides that, Azure is NOT usage payed, Azure is an approximation to that I would call scalable server rental. You pay by time and size, not by use. Maybe that explains Azure's momentum, they're getting things right and discouraging people by having expensive/inadequate prices. I hope they get it right soon, and that they start billing by usage.
I do .Net at an agency and I like it but it's amazing how much noise there is in the Microsoft ecossystem.