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How ~75% of PirateBay traffic is seeded by 100 people driven by profit

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Re: How ~75% of PirateBay traffic is seeded by 100 people driven by profit

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BitTorrent community is a hydra, and will grow two new heads if one is cut down.

If GrooveShark pays royalty fees, I indirectly pay for music, but movies in my country are nearly unavailable, and only the elite can afford to go to the cinema or buy disks.

Re: How ~75% of PirateBay traffic is seeded by 100 people driven by profit

#12
There are also cases where one username corresponds with a few IP addresses from the same ISP, which is known as the NAT [network address translation] effect.

Aren't they getting this backwards? NAT takes multiple computers (i.e., users) and concentrates them into a single outwardly-visible IP.

Re: How ~75% of PirateBay traffic is seeded by 100 people driven by profit

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post #6

Summary: "some people give away free (others') movies, and then put some links to their private adsense-laden portals in a README file or somesuch. This accounts for a very large percentage of the downloads from the pirate bay." Very interesting findings, but it doesn't really answer the question of how important these people are to the pirate ecosystem. Are they just taking releases from more-private "underground" s…

Most of the content on tpb comes from the scene which does not condone p2p sharing. These people just have access to scene releases early and want to profit from it. http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-releasers-slice-the-top-o... http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-releasers-are-the-new-kid... Sadly, the report does not list any of the usernames of those that they studied. However, if you just go to a category, pick a…

Yep. "The scene" really hates p2p in all its forms. They have been having inter-group drama over it for years. Pretty hilarious all round.

See:

http://www.scenenotice.org/details.php?id=1847

http://www.scenenotice.org/details.php?id=1920

and many others on that site.

Re: How ~75% of PirateBay traffic is seeded by 100 people driven by profit

#14
post #4

I am shocked, shocked that piracy is not driven by music connoisseurs and film buffs eager to bring the artistic and cinematic masterworks of our times like Baby and Salt to poor wretches who can barely afford their $60 a month broadband and $500 computers to say nothing of their $0.99 music downloads.

In the US sure, but how many can afford it in the third world?

Re: How ~75% of PirateBay traffic is seeded by 100 people driven by profit

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post #8

Sounds like some good entrepreneurship going on there. These creative business models should be applauded. Some of them, if encouraged, may even lead to viable distribution business models for movies and music in the future.

I'm far from a fan of the big movie studios and their rigid distribution models, but I'm still unconvinced that annotating other people's content with spam portals is either (i) a particularly creative business model or (ii) a viable alternative revenue source for those creating and selling the content.

You have to make do with what you can. At the moment, any more legitimate form of content monetisation is effectively ruled out by the "rigid", as you call it, stance of the copyright holders. I'm sure the people setting up those sites would rather use more profitable business models.

In fact, if you read the article, you will see a screenshot of one enterprising bit-torrent site offering monthly subscriptions. So even with all the hurdles thrown into their way by the current owners of the time-unlimited copyrights on these works, they still manage to do more than just spam portals.

I think that's to be applauded.

Re: How ~75% of PirateBay traffic is seeded by 100 people driven by profit

#16
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most of the content on tpb comes from the scene which does not condone p2p sharing. These people just have access to scene releases early and want to profit from it. http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-releasers-slice-the-top-o... http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-releasers-are-the-new-kid... Sadly, the report does not list any of the usernames of those that they studied. However, if you just go to a category, pick a…

Yep. "The scene" really hates p2p in all its forms. They have been having inter-group drama over it for years. Pretty hilarious all round. See: http://www.scenenotice.org/details.php?id=1847 http://www.scenenotice.org/details.php?id=1920 and many others on that site.

Don't these people have ANYTHING to do?

Re: How ~75% of PirateBay traffic is seeded by 100 people driven by profit

#17

People have been putting those little files in for years, the only thing that's changed is that now the destination sites are bittorrent trackers with adverts and the txt files are poorly spelled and ugly, whereas back in the day they'd have awesome ASCII art advertising the various scene dumpsites the release had been FXP'd through.

They still have those ASCII art and scene dumpsites. Problem is that someone with access to scene material takes that, and then retags it with their shitty website and uploads it to bittorrent.

Re: How ~75% of PirateBay traffic is seeded by 100 people driven by profit

#18
Having been part of the "XviD scene" for many years in the not too distant past, I have to say that the whole angle on this being profit-driven is just... wrong. NFO-files have been around since the early days of BBS trading in the Amiga scene and the PC scene alike, and the presence of web addresses in these files today doesn't change the reality that people just don't care for reading the NFOs when it comes to audio and video, and the vast majority don't even care when it comes to software unless they absolutely need to check the NFO for instructions on how to apply a crack, a registry key or similar. Furthermore, people don't give a damned about looking for web addresses in the NFOs to find out where to "get more"; they don't need to, they already know where to get their warez. To say that there is anything close to even moderate traffic going to the various groups' ad-laden addresses is a gross, gross exaggeration.

Re: How ~75% of PirateBay traffic is seeded by 100 people driven by profit

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There are also cases where one username corresponds with a few IP addresses from the same ISP, which is known as the NAT [network address translation] effect. Aren't they getting this backwards? NAT takes multiple computers (i.e., users) and concentrates them into a single outwardly-visible IP.

should be "...which is known as a dynamic IP address."

Actually, it is a bad sentence, 'which is known as' is referring to 'cases'.

Re: How ~75% of PirateBay traffic is seeded by 100 people driven by profit

#20

Summary: "some people give away free (others') movies, and then put some links to their private adsense-laden portals in a README file or somesuch. This accounts for a very large percentage of the downloads from the pirate bay." Very interesting findings, but it doesn't really answer the question of how important these people are to the pirate ecosystem. Are they just taking releases from more-private "underground" s…

> Very interesting findings, but it doesn't really answer the question of how important these people are to the pirate ecosystem.

If they account for 75% of the downloads, then they are VERY important.

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